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It’s offensive coordinator Bill Lazor finally having the freedom to run the balanced offense he’s strived for since arriving in Miami last season.
“I let Bill run what he wants to run,” Campbell said. “I let (defensive coordinator) Lou (Anarumo) do what he wants to do. Every once in a while I may have an idea and I’ll give them my idea or my opinion on something, but I let them handle it. The last thing they need is me looking over their shoulder.”
Before Lazor replaced Mike Sherman as Miami’s offensive coordinator last year, he was quarterbacks coach for a season in Philadelphia when the Eagles had the NFL’s second-highest ranked total offense.
It was also a team that had one of the league’s most balanced pass-to-run ratios at 53 percent — a point that Lazor was quick to raise when the Dolphins hired him.
Running the ball, he stressed, was a necessity.
Yet last season the Dolphins passed the ball 62 percent of the time, ninth-highest in the league.
The previous year, with Sherman as coordinator, Miami passed the ball 65 percent of the time, third-highest in the league.
In the first four games this year, the Dolphins were passing the ball on 73 percent of their offensive plays, a ratio that made the offense way too predictable for opponents.
The one constant? Joe Philbin, who was fired this season after the 1-3 start.
Lazor always took the blame for Miami’s offensive woes under Philbin. You have no other choice as a coordinator.
Philbin portrayed the offensive calls as a group decision.
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(didn't see this posted; pls merge if it is)


TOLD.

YOU.

SO.

This wasn't meant so much for this community as another.

Sincerely,
The "insane" one.
 
Maybe I'm missing something here, but there is NOTHING here other than assumption - "the one constant? Joe Philbin" wow the writer of this article assumes a lot from that. Give me a quote from someone saying not running the ball was a specific command from Joe Philbin, then post a thread like this.

Just to be clear, I've wanted Philbin gone since the teams meltdown in his second season, but this article is hot garbage.
 
^^^ Agreed, it's just an assumption from the writer....won't stop it from becoming fact in the minds of some though. He failed as a head coach as he's gone, that's all I need to know about Philbin from now on. I was a long time supporter before this season's meltdown.
 
People keep blaming the lack of a run game but the run game constantly put the offense in bad situations. The problem IMO wasn't a high volume of passing but a high volume of passing that didn't involve Tannehill getting to roll out or use play action. There is almost a 100% certainty that those nuances are on the coordinator and not the HC unless the HC is calling the plays.
 
maybe Al Saunders helped, just maybe? I am not a Phibin fan but no need to blame the sun set on him
 
We ran the ball well last year for the most part with the same HC and OC. Miller was over 1,000 yards.
I think missing Albert and Sims had more to do with not running the ball well and the fact we found ourselves behind early in just about every game except the last one and had to play catch up.
 
look at it this way. Tannehill was under center 30% of the time last game. before that how many plays did we run under center with Lazor? I bet you can count them on 1 hand. whats different? Al Saunders is an offensive consultant. unless you realllly believe Lazor learned plays from under center in Philly. in that case, I have a bridge to sell you
 
Could be but again when you are playing catch up and way behind early like the Bills and Jets games chances are you are not going under center very often.
I'm sure Al has valuable input but only being here a week i'm not sure he changed any offensive scheme's or call's but rather just gave advise and worked with the players.
 
Look, Lazor ran his offense at UVa, and it was always a balanceed offense. His scheme is dependent on versatility at the TE and RB positions. We don't have it yet.

Cameron can pass pro decently, catch well as a size mismatch and run great seam routes. His run blocking isn't bad, but it's not great. Sims is ok at run blocking and average at pass pro, but his lack of quickness, speed, length or verticality prevent him being anything other than a last option in the passing game. Miller runs horrible routes, has hands of stone, can not run with power and is poor at pass pro. These are not the chess pieces Lazor needs.

His offense creates a run game, but we need more of the right players. Honestly only Cameron fits the bill right now. I have hope for Ajayi, but I guess we need to wait and see.

Thus offense is a mismatch offense. When teams put in situational packages, this offense destroys them, then goes hurry - up to lock them into that mismatch.
 
fishfanmiami said:
Could be but again when you are playing catch up and way behind early like the Bills and Jets games chances are you are not going under center very often.
I'm sure Al has valuable input but only being here a week i'm not sure he changed any offensive scheme's or call's but rather just gave advise and worked with the players.
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maybe that's the case. but how many times did we run in the 1st quarter last week compared to previous weeks? I think there is a big difference. no matter what, you should be able to stay balanced in the 1st quarter. I'm not questioning Lazor and saying he stinks. I just question his commitment to the run. but yea Dion Sims plus Billy Turner will help the running game a ton
 
Digital said:
Cameron can pass pro decently, catch well as a size mismatch and run great seam routes. His run blocking isn't bad, but it's not great. Sims is ok at run blocking and average at pass pro, but his lack of quickness, speed, length or verticality prevent him being anything other than a last option in the passing game. .
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I'll have to disagree and say Sims is a very good blocker and when he was out Cameron had to try to pick up the slack but that limited his role in the passing game. With Sims back in his role as the blocking guy who occasionally catches a pass Cameron is allowed more freedom to run routes.

I also think with Miller , Gray and Ajayi Lazor has all the tools he needs to run any scheme he wants as long as the OL blocking is solid.
 
Cameron can't block period. asking him to block is just as big of a mistake as Seattle asking Jimmy Graham to block. same kind of player, seam threat who can't block
 
You can see the big influance parcells has on campbell in this write up.

Bill Parcells said he ALWAYS let his coaches coach. If i saw something in the game, i might might tell the coaches but other than that, i let them do what they were hired to do.

As a coach, your only as good as those around you.

And i agree with all that. The great coaches, in their hay days always had or have great coaches under them and dont get in their way. Another sign Dan Campbell is going to be great h/c, if not here then for some other lucky team. He has listened and learned from the greats.


===================================
Dan Campbell for H/C of the Miami Dolphins?

WHY NOT?
 
Atila said:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but there is NOTHING here other than assumption - "the one constant? Joe Philbin" wow the writer of this article assumes a lot from that. Give me a quote from someone saying not running the ball was a specific command from Joe Philbin, then post a thread like this.

Just to be clear, I've wanted Philbin gone since the teams meltdown in his second season, but this article is hot garbage.
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Extremely bad journalism. Not bad assumptions, but no facts!
 
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