DolphinFan87
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Thank you for picking a QB and that the eagles screwed up!
John Beck is our savior!
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Shamboubou
THE REAL SOUL SHAKER!
Yeah wonderful, we got a QB that will be almost 30 before he is ready to start. Perfect. I know they liked this guys skills, but so far this draft sucks. We get the worse grade yet.
Honestly I don't know much about him, but what I read here in his BIo looks impressive.
Positives: Has a lean frame with room for additional growth, showing average overall muscle tone, good arm length and large, soft hands … Runs with a normal stride and has the functional hip snap to change directions and avoid pocket pressure … Has good balance and adequate body control throwing on the move, demonstrating good hip rotation … Has decent foot quickness in his pass set and shows good quick-twitch muscle fibers … Very intelligent player who has no problem executing a complicated game plan … Student of the game who breaks down opposing film and does a good job of making adjustments on the field … Plays through pain and shows very good poise in the pocket and confidence in his protection, as it is rare to see him bolt too early, as he will stand tall and take some shots under pressure … Has good throwing mechanics and sets his feet with agility and solid base … Even with just average timed speed, his feet appear light when forced to move out of the pocket … In 2006, he received much better pocket protection, allowing him to take his time making reads to locate secondary targets … Displays awareness to anticipate when the receiver is coming out of the breaks … With his three-quarters delivery and natural hands, Beck is very effective at getting the ball out quickly … Shows very good arm whip to get the ball out in time to hit the receivers coming out of their breaks … In the short-to-intermediate area, Beck's tosses show good zip and velocity … Generates the same velocity, whether throwing off his front or back foot and has the touch to fire the ball into tight areas underneath and shows good hip rotation to generate a tight spiral … Demonstrates the ability to hit his targets in stride working in the short areas … Has better timing underneath than when airing the ball out, as he shows a good feel for route progression … Does a good job of maintaining good accuracy on his throws along the perimeter … Good at making pre-snap judgment calls … Not only reduced his interceptions from 13 in 2005 to eight in 2006, but also increased his yardage output (from 3,709 to 3,885) while attempting 96 less passes … Has good timing and touch working in the intermediate area and has the ability to adjust on the move, thanks to his good field vision … Gutsy field general, evident by his performance playing on two bad ankles vs. Boston College in 2006 … Effective at rolling out to locate his receivers, showing good accuracy throwing on the move … Won't win foot races past the line of scrimmage, but knows how to square his shoulders and follow his blockers on goal-line running plays.
Negatives: Needs to add more bulk and strength to his frame to absorb punishment in the pocket and, even though he is able to move around the pocket, he is no threat running with the ball … Has good arm strength for the short-to-intermediate area, but realizes that he lacks the raw power to air the ball out consistently, keeping the game plan within his athletic talents … Lacks ideal height and valid speed, but makes up for it with good short-area avoid skills and a quick release to unleash the ball on time … Will sometimes revert to locking on to his primary target, resulting in him throwing into double coverage (see 2006 Boston College and New Mexico games) … Sets his feet well on delivery, but will show a bit of a wind-up when he releases the ball over the top rather than his normal, three-quarters delivery … When he attempts to air it out, the ball tends to float and fall off, causing the receivers to break off their routes … Needs to do a better job of dropping the deep ball in over the outside shoulder of the receiver, as the ball floats too much on fade and long throws (deep passes will come off his hands too high, as it floats and lofts) … Stands tall in the pocket under pressure and won't panic and try to run with the ball, but most of his sacks are the result of Beck sitting too long at the Xs, as he knows he has only adequate slide-quickness in attempts to roll out … Has the mobility to elude some pocket pressure, but lacks the suddenness to avoid, tuck the ball and head up field.
SOunds like a Leader, Smart on Game-Day and adjustments. Cant move well (sounds like Marino Junior!) Steve Young Loved this guy as well!
Lets give him a chance!
Positives: Has a lean frame with room for additional growth, showing average overall muscle tone, good arm length and large, soft hands … Runs with a normal stride and has the functional hip snap to change directions and avoid pocket pressure … Has good balance and adequate body control throwing on the move, demonstrating good hip rotation … Has decent foot quickness in his pass set and shows good quick-twitch muscle fibers … Very intelligent player who has no problem executing a complicated game plan … Student of the game who breaks down opposing film and does a good job of making adjustments on the field … Plays through pain and shows very good poise in the pocket and confidence in his protection, as it is rare to see him bolt too early, as he will stand tall and take some shots under pressure … Has good throwing mechanics and sets his feet with agility and solid base … Even with just average timed speed, his feet appear light when forced to move out of the pocket … In 2006, he received much better pocket protection, allowing him to take his time making reads to locate secondary targets … Displays awareness to anticipate when the receiver is coming out of the breaks … With his three-quarters delivery and natural hands, Beck is very effective at getting the ball out quickly … Shows very good arm whip to get the ball out in time to hit the receivers coming out of their breaks … In the short-to-intermediate area, Beck's tosses show good zip and velocity … Generates the same velocity, whether throwing off his front or back foot and has the touch to fire the ball into tight areas underneath and shows good hip rotation to generate a tight spiral … Demonstrates the ability to hit his targets in stride working in the short areas … Has better timing underneath than when airing the ball out, as he shows a good feel for route progression … Does a good job of maintaining good accuracy on his throws along the perimeter … Good at making pre-snap judgment calls … Not only reduced his interceptions from 13 in 2005 to eight in 2006, but also increased his yardage output (from 3,709 to 3,885) while attempting 96 less passes … Has good timing and touch working in the intermediate area and has the ability to adjust on the move, thanks to his good field vision … Gutsy field general, evident by his performance playing on two bad ankles vs. Boston College in 2006 … Effective at rolling out to locate his receivers, showing good accuracy throwing on the move … Won't win foot races past the line of scrimmage, but knows how to square his shoulders and follow his blockers on goal-line running plays.
Negatives: Needs to add more bulk and strength to his frame to absorb punishment in the pocket and, even though he is able to move around the pocket, he is no threat running with the ball … Has good arm strength for the short-to-intermediate area, but realizes that he lacks the raw power to air the ball out consistently, keeping the game plan within his athletic talents … Lacks ideal height and valid speed, but makes up for it with good short-area avoid skills and a quick release to unleash the ball on time … Will sometimes revert to locking on to his primary target, resulting in him throwing into double coverage (see 2006 Boston College and New Mexico games) … Sets his feet well on delivery, but will show a bit of a wind-up when he releases the ball over the top rather than his normal, three-quarters delivery … When he attempts to air it out, the ball tends to float and fall off, causing the receivers to break off their routes … Needs to do a better job of dropping the deep ball in over the outside shoulder of the receiver, as the ball floats too much on fade and long throws (deep passes will come off his hands too high, as it floats and lofts) … Stands tall in the pocket under pressure and won't panic and try to run with the ball, but most of his sacks are the result of Beck sitting too long at the Xs, as he knows he has only adequate slide-quickness in attempts to roll out … Has the mobility to elude some pocket pressure, but lacks the suddenness to avoid, tuck the ball and head up field.
SOunds like a Leader, Smart on Game-Day and adjustments. Cant move well (sounds like Marino Junior!) Steve Young Loved this guy as well!
Lets give him a chance!
OH and what other QB can throw 70 yard bombs on a rope??\
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHBy7uIV_iE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHBy7uIV_iE
DolphinFan87
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yeah, his age is a problem, almost as old as Ricky Williams
FinFreak819
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savior right. A 26 year old Jesus freak "our Savior" wonderful. Any how this seems almost like what happened a few years ago Quinn / Beck - Culpepper / Brees. We all know who got the ****ty end of that deal. I think this guy is a strong back-up at best. he reminds me of that Buffalo bills backup for Jim Kelly FRank Riech or something like that.
Brady Quinn and Sidney Rice > John Beck and Ted Ginn Jr
Breed
Pro Bowler
You're a year off; he won't turn 26 until August 21. We spent the 2nd overall pick on a 24 year old RB a couple of years ago.
I still prefer Trent Edwards though...
BSQX4
Practice Squad
Look, I wanted Quinn but mostly because of the hype and the Notre Dame/ Charlie Weiss association. Cam is a QB guru and he scouted the crap out of these guys. He will install the system and he needs to choose the QB who he thinks is best suited to run it. Not who Kiper thinks is best. Let's defer to the guy until it turns out to be a bad decision, then we'll skewer him.JK. By the way Ginn has world class speed, comes from a great program and he will be a star wide reciever, also he can help us right away with kickoffs, punt returns as well as at wide reciever. We better get some o-line now.
dlockz
Hall Of Famer
Well Cam never had say in picking a QB before so who knows what differance he will make.