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It's like the Marlins passing on insert young starting pitchers name here in round 1 because they like 35 year old Jim Morris in round two.
 
danmarinofan said:
It's like the Marlins passing on insert young starting pitchers name here in round 1 because they like 35 year old Jim Morris in round two.
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Do you think that Brady Quinn is as good as Matt Leinart? The Cardinals drafted him at #10 last year.
 
you're right its exactly like that. the three to 4 year age difference between Beck and Quinn is the same as the 15 to 17 year age differential between Morris and an unnamed pitcher.
 
DolphinsFan23 said:
Do you think that Brady Quinn is as good as Matt Leinart? The Cardinals drafted him at #10 last year.
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Do you think Ginn will return punts as well as Hester? The Bears picked Hester in the 2nd round.
 
if brady quin was the second coming of montana or marino do you really think he wouldve feel to 22. I mean i know the media overhyped him and he played for notre dame, but come on lets be honest. We didnt get the sexy pick that makes everyone go wow but we did get a solid qb with alot of upside for a fraction of the cost. THis to go along with the fact that any qb we take in the first round will have 13 looking over his schoulder the whole time. Beck was a good choice comprable skills, more maturity, and much easier on the salary cap. Since he is second round talent the comparison to marino might not kill him like it has every qb since dan left.
 
DolphinsFan23 said:
Do you think that Brady Quinn is as good as Matt Leinart? The Cardinals drafted him at #10 last year.
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No.

Al Davis wanted to draft Leinart and Art Shell talked him out of it. I would rank Russell and Quinn behind Young, Leinart and Cutler and rank John Beck a long way behind Russell and Quinn.

Al Davis wishes he took Leinart over Huff and Mueller will wish he would have taken Quinn over Ginn next year.
 
ojmcduffy said:
if brady quin was the second coming of montana or marino do you really think he wouldve feel to 22. I mean i know the media overhyped him and he played for notre dame, but come on lets be honest. We didnt get the sexy pick that makes everyone go wow but we did get a solid qb with alot of upside for a fraction of the cost. THis to go along with the fact that any qb we take in the first round will have 13 looking over his schoulder the whole time. Beck was a good choice comprable skills, more maturity, and much easier on the salary cap. Since he is second round talent the comparison to marino might not kill him like it has every qb since dan left.
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If NFL scouts are never wrong why did Tom Brady fall to the sixth round? Why did Marino fall to 27?
 
danmarinofan said:
No.

Al Davis wanted to draft Leinart and Art Shell talked him out of it. I would rank Russell and Quinn behind Young, Leinart and Cutler and rank John Beck a long way behind Russell and Quinn.

Al Davis wishes he took Leinart over Huff and Mueller will wish he would have taken Quinn over Ginn next year.
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Obviously, a whole lot of other teams thought Quinn was a risky pick too. 21 teams to be exact. If the Browns didn't take the hometown boy at #22 (very expensively by the way), he could have dropped into the 2nd round. If he fell all the way to our the first of our second round picks that would have been a very interesting dilemna indeed. Randy and Cam *might* have grabbed Quinn. Never know. I know Quinn would have been super embarrassed if he got passed over again by the Dolphins. Maybe Randy and Cam are right on the money about Quinn. Maybe he really is an overhyped product of Weiss' system from a traditionally good football program? Dave Hyde is thinking the same thing:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...r29,0,4356805.column?coll=sfla-dolphins-front


"Yet every bile-spewing fan knows more about two quarterbacks they've never seen in person?

Here's a thought: Maybe the Dolphins' new brass left Saturday exactly as they wanted. Maybe they started to rebuild the offense as needed. Maybe they got the missing speed at receiver and in a return specialist with Ginn and the quarterback of the future in Beck.

Maybe they actually know what they're doing.

You don't have to love Ginn. He's fast. He's dangerous. But he's a receiver in a receiver-deep draft, 175 pounds and has trouble surviving touchdown celebrations. So let's see him get through a NFL season healthy before turning those thumbs up.

Nor did you probably see Beck throw a pass last year at Brigham Young. What you should know is the Dolphins rated him "slightly higher than Quinn," according to a source who spoke after Quinn was bypassed.

So here was the logic: Why draft the much-hyped Quinn with the ninth pick when a less-hyped, slightly-better version of him would be available in the second round? You can question the ranking if you want. But not the logic.
 
ojmcduffy said:
if brady quin was the second coming of montana or marino do you really think he wouldve feel to 22. I mean i know the media overhyped him and he played for notre dame, but come on lets be honest. We didnt get the sexy pick that makes everyone go wow but we did get a solid qb with alot of upside for a fraction of the cost. THis to go along with the fact that any qb we take in the first round will have 13 looking over his schoulder the whole time. Beck was a good choice comprable skills, more maturity, and much easier on the salary cap. Since he is second round talent the comparison to marino might not kill him like it has every qb since dan left.
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You sound like one of the people in 1983 that were saying: If this young kid Dan Marino was going to be the next Johhny Unitas or Fran Tarkenton do you think he would have slipped to 27th behind several other QBs?
 
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