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John Beck Vs. Brady Quinn

Preaching to the Choir!!

I am sold on John Beck!! I really think he will be solid!!
 
Ridiculous.
I love that we drafted Beck but you can't show a pre-Weis Quinn getting sacked a bunch of times and say Beck is better.
 
You can't also show a pre-crowton Beck and say quinn is better either. That was when gary crowton was the head coach.
 
i said on week,one month,5 months ago

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!QUINN STINK¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
 
Those passes were accurate from Beck, can't take that away from him, and in his phone conference he was extremely well spoken. I have a feeling the doubters will change opinions.
 
Quinn opted out of combine

Doesn't it make anyone speculate that Quinn chose not to throw at the combine? I can only think of one good reason why a QB wouldn't do that: they are afraid their performance is going to hurt their draft status.
1. Quinn is not as good as the other QB's, especially Beck, and he knows it.
2. Who wants a QB that doesn't want to prove himself against the others? What kind of confidence is that?

So he opts out of the combine because he's afraid that on that neutral playing field without the ND uniform and media hype his true colors would show. I actually think he was pretty smart for doing so. If he had thrown at the combine he would have slid out of the first round for sure, and he knew it. Lucky for him he had smart agents.
 
How about how they actually fared when they went head-to-head????
Beck's stats: 26-45 for 317yds, 2 TDs, and 2 INTs (1 for a Pick-6)
Quinn's stats: 32-41 for 467yds, 6 TDs, 0 INTs

and that's against a completely hapless Notre Dame secondary (see this year's Sugar Bowl, Michigan game, or the last 2 USC games)
 
That's a bit of an unfair comparison. Not only that Beck got injured and his replacements did just as well that game.

Now here's what happened in 2005:
John Beck vs. Notre Dame (2005): 57.8% completed, 2 TD's 2 Ints, 317 yards
Brady Quinn vs. BYU (2005): 78% competed, 6 TD's 0 Ints, 467 yards

Oh and btw, Notre Dame was the only top 20 ranked team BYU played that year. I can only hope that Beck is capable of starting at the professional level.
 
Regan21286 said:
That's a bit of an unfair comparison. Not only that Beck got injured and his replacements did just as well that game.

Now here's what happened in 2005:
John Beck vs. Notre Dame (2005): 57.8% completed, 2 TD's 2 Ints, 317 yards
Brady Quinn vs. BYU (2005): 78% competed, 6 TD's 0 Ints, 467 yards

Oh and btw, Notre Dame was the only top 20 ranked team BYU played that year. I can only hope that Beck is capable of starting at the professional level.
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Injured? He was the only player to attempt a pass for BYU...
If Beck was injured than he wouldn't have been in the game with 9 minutes left (when he threw the Pick-6 to ice the game for ND).
http://www.byucougars.com/Filing.jsp?ID=0000007005

as for the "unfair comparison", head-to-head seemed to work pretty well for #1 overall pick Jamarcus Russell (who's reputation was built almost entirely off of the Sugar Bowl against ND). He looked great in the Sugar Bowl, even though every time they played the Gators (who had a competent defense) he looked like butt: (24-41 for 228yds, 1 TD and 3 INTs this season).
 
BJinGainesville said:
Injured? He was the only player to attempt a pass for BYU...
If Beck was injured than he wouldn't have been in the game with 9 minutes left (when he threw the Pick-6 to ice the game for ND).
http://www.byucougars.com/Filing.jsp?ID=0000007005

as for the "unfair comparison", head-to-head seemed to work pretty well for #1 overall pick Jamarcus Russell (who's reputation was built almost entirely off of the Sugar Bowl against ND). He looked great in the Sugar Bowl, even though every time they played the Gators (who had a competent defense) he looked like butt: (24-41 for 228yds, 1 TD and 3 INTs this season).
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I think you completely misread my post. I meant from the 2004 game against ND (they did play them twice you know). The previous year's. The one who's highlights are being shown when BYU beat ND in 2004. That's what the unfair comparison was directed to.
 
lol what a stupid argument. All I saw was one QB have all day to throw to wide open WR, and one QB spend most of the day on his back. Proves absolutely nothing. I was at that game btw ;)
 
BJinGainesville said:
Injured? He was the only player to attempt a pass for BYU...
If Beck was injured than he wouldn't have been in the game with 9 minutes left (when he threw the Pick-6 to ice the game for ND).
http://www.byucougars.com/Filing.jsp?ID=0000007005

as for the "unfair comparison", head-to-head seemed to work pretty well for #1 overall pick Jamarcus Russell (who's reputation was built almost entirely off of the Sugar Bowl against ND). He looked great in the Sugar Bowl, even though every time they played the Gators (who had a competent defense) he looked like butt: (24-41 for 228yds, 1 TD and 3 INTs this season).
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I wonder if that has anything to do with Floridas defense and Notre Dames defense? What does crappy defense have to do w/ Quinn?
 
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