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John Gruden is our man.

Here is my wish list -

1. Get us a real owner. Someone who knows football, is passionate about it and has deep pockets. Ross has brought in a bunch of celebrity owners like J-LO and Fergie....what a joke. Does this sound like a real owner to you? We need a guy who is passionate about his team, like Mark Cuban of the Dallas Mavericks in the NBA, and Jerry Jones of the Cowboys. He doesn't have to be a control freak like Jones but we can do better than Ross.

2. A new coach like Gruden is necessary, but if we don't get a new GM, our new coach is just going to be coaching crappy players.

3. We need a franchise QB. We haven't had one since Dan Marino. Chad Henne seems like a decent guy, but he is not a franchise QB.

4. Do something about the stadium. The goofy orange seats look like Disneyworld...we supposedly always have sellouts at the stadium but the upper decks always look empty to me along with patches of empty seats throughout the stadium. Why aren't there more fans attending games? Maybe putting a roof over the stadium would help? But the bigger issue is fans don't come out because we don't win, and we have a boring product on the field.

If the team isn't drawing fans then move them somewhere else. I will still support the Phins, as I have no particular loyalty to Florida or the Miami area. I am sure places like Las Vegas, Albuquerque, and Oklahoma City would love to have a team. Sorry but that is just how I feel....if the people in South Florida don't want to support the team than move the team.

5. The team has gone over 37 years without winning a SB and the way things are being run it could be another 37 years of futility. The great teams in the NFL (Packers, Steelers, Patriots and maybe a few others) are always at or near the top because they have great owners and stability. They keep their organization together and if guys don't fit in they get rid of them. They demand excellence.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Funny how Gruden won a Super Bowl with Dungy's team but no mention that Callahan took the Raiders to the Super Bowl with Gruden's team.

Warren Sapp swears by Gruden and you can't deny he is outstanding on the sidelines, something we have not had in years. But I damn sure don't want to give him full control of the franchise nor final say.
 
Roman529 said:
Here is my wish list -

1. Get us a real owner. Someone who knows football, is passionate about it and has deep pockets. Ross has brought in a bunch of celebrity owners like J-LO and Fergie....what a joke. Does this sound like a real owner to you? We need a guy who is passionate about his team, like Mark Cuban of the Dallas Mavericks in the NBA, and Jerry Jones of the Cowboys. He doesn't have to be a control freak like Jones but we can do better than Ross.

2. A new coach like Gruden is necessary, but if we don't get a new GM, our new coach is just going to be coaching crappy players.

3. We need a franchise QB. We haven't had one since Dan Marino. Chad Henne seems like a decent guy, but he is not a franchise QB.

4. Do something about the stadium. The goofy orange seats look like Disneyworld...we supposedly always have sellouts at the stadium but the upper decks always look empty to me along with patches of empty seats throughout the stadium. Why aren't there more fans attending games? Maybe putting a roof over the stadium would help? But the bigger issue is fans don't come out because we don't win, and we have a boring product on the field.

If the team isn't drawing fans then move them somewhere else. I will still support the Phins, as I have no particular loyalty to Florida or the Miami area. I am sure places like Las Vegas, Albuquerque, and Oklahoma City would love to have a team. Sorry but that is just how I feel....if the people in South Florida don't want to support the team than move the team.

5. The team has gone over 37 years without winning a SB and the way things are being run it could be another 37 years of futility. The great teams in the NFL (Packers, Steelers, Patriots and maybe a few others) are always at or near the top because they have great owners and stability. They keep their organization together and if guys don't fit in they get rid of them. They demand excellence.

Just my 2 cents.
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well the owner isnt going anywhere its his team. so lets talk about the things that actually can change. and yes clearly whoever is picking players needs to do a good job of collecting talent. what this is really all about is developing a system of player acquisition and development. its not ALL about simply coaching. u have to have a vision, then figure out how the pieces fit into that vision and whats needed to make it run smoothly. thats why its important for the head coach and the guy finding talent to have a good relationship - if the are cohesive you are strong at the top and that will trickle down.

so it starts there, and it helps if a guy has already been through it, because it reduces his learning curve. and hes less inclined to make the mistakes that an inexperienced guy will make (see sparano). its rare to find a guy available that has a track record of success at the highest level available - for one thing because there simply arent very many of them to begin with. in addition, those guys are generally retained or are up there in years when those things happen. there happen to be a few guys out there that have been there done that. and any search SHOULD start with them. if you eliminate them, then you should have a LEGITIMATE reason as an owner to eliminate them from your search. and one legit reason potentially would be full control if they havent done it. but a great coach isnt going to want to want his vision for the team to be limited - so you have to find those answers. and how do you make it work? so all these things come into play.

as far as cowher is concerned, as a coach - you cant really make a case against him. im just philosophically opposed to him. people generally dont change much and he would be even less inclined to change because he thinks hes had success doing it his way. and his way can work. i just dont think its the best way. and i think history tells us this. personally i love running the ball. i think at times teams get away from too quickly and for the wrong reasons. BUT, passing can open up the running game. and for me you pass to run. you pass in order to generate those 6-10 yard gains in the running game - did u see how the patriots handled the running against us?? it wasnt the passing game that was so impresssive - although that was very impressive - it was HOW they mixed in the run and the success they had running the ball. we were worried about the pass and then they gashed us with the run. the run kept us off balance the whole game.

see generally i feel teams that want to run the ball think if they just continue to pound the rock into the line...eventually theyll have success. they can dominate the clock, keep the defense fresh etc etc. but that not what offense should be about. its about efficiency and nothing more. and THAT is why the patriots have become so dangerous now.

i dont ever see that happening under cowher. i dont believe cowher believes in offensive efficiency. i believe he believes he has to RUN to win and its just not accurate.

gruden has clearly demonstrated he understands the importance of the passing game. but as evidenced by his slogan for that super-bowl season he DOES want to "pound the rock" also. i believe he believes you pass to run. but he wants to run. and thats how u do it. thats how bill walsh did it. thats how the west coast offense developed. gruden called his own plays. and rich gannon developed into an NFL MVP under his watch. the bucs offense was very efficient and effective in the playoffs under his watch, and brad johnson won a super bowl.

this guy UNDERSTANDS offense AND he UNDERSTANDS coaching. he knows what it takes to win. and this team wouldnt be boring with gruden as coach. he gives us the best chance to be the most efficient team offensively as we can be. HES DONE IT. he KNOWS what hes doing. cowher would win. i dont think hed win as efficiently as gruden. and i dont believe his style fits the city or what we as fans would love to see. off course winning trumps all. but tell me you dont wish you didnt have an offense to root for like new englands the last couple years.

i dont know how the personal part of it all fits together. and perhaps as a big picture kind of thing cowher would get the nod because of his personal people and his support system. we dont know those answers. and perhaps that picture looks brighter with gruden. not sure.

but from a PURELY coaching perspective Gruden should get the nod based on several key advantages he brings to the table.

but yes weve got to find the right guy picking the players. they go hand in hand. talent acquisition and development. gotta build the system, and gotta find the guy that will stick around and see it through. gruden can
 
uscalum said:
so who built the Raiders?
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again some of these people arent understand why gruden was hired in the first place. He was hired because he build the raiders team that made it to the superbowl that he beat folks, do people not understand how much the bucs gave up to get this guy? 2 1st round picks folks and more!!!!!!!!! sheesh i just dont understand how people are not seeing just how much john gruden is worth as a coach.... Yes tampa was dungys team but john gruden was fully behind the construction of that oakland team that he played against in the superbowl. Come on man.....
 
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