Nicky Napoleon
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Has any one seen or scouted this guy, I was looking deeper into Jay Cutler and saw his name and the fact that he is 6'3 190lbs and runs a 4.31 40. This is the type of WR we are in desperate need of.
Jonathan Orr???
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kastofsna120
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brandon williams is better
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Jonathan Orr is another in a line of standout athletes with exceptional speed to perform at wide receiver for the Badgers. He has the explosive burst and ball adjustment skills of a Lee Evans and the size, athletic ability and toughness catching the ball in traffic of a Chris Chambers. The consummate team player, his production the last two years has been limited due to the team's problems at the quarterback position. However, Jonathan continued to contribute in other areas to compensate for the lack of chances he's received to show his awesome talent.
Orr was a Prep Star and Super Prep All-American receiver at Detroit powerhouse Henry Ford High School. He was rated one of the nation's top receivers according to Prep Star and was a first-team All-State choice by the Detroit News. Jonathan averaged 30.1 yards on 25 grabs for 753 yards and eleven touchdowns during his senior season. He earned All-City honors with 30 receptions for 705 yards and ten touchdowns as a junior. Jonathan excelled in track, running the 100 meters in 10.6 seconds. Jonathan also served as class president.
He redshirted as a freshman at Wisconsin in 2001, suiting up for the Michigan and Minnesota games. In 2002, Jonathan exploded on the collegiate scene for the Badgers, finishing second on the squad with 47 receptions for 842 yards (17.9 avg) and eight touchdowns, earning second-team Freshman All-American honors from The Sporting News. His 47 grabs rank ninth on the school's season-record list while his 842 yards rank fifth. Only Al Toon (9 in 1984 and Lee Evans (9 in 2001 and 13 in 2003) had more touch-down catches in a season for Wisconsin. What was even more impressive was the fact that 35 of those receptions resulted in first downs, including eight that he converted on third-down plays while sixteen of those catches came on scoring drives.
The team then shifted to a predominantly ground attack over the next two years. Jonathan was limited to seven catches for 117 yards (16.7 avg) in 2003, but six of those grabs resulted in first downs, with three of those grabs setting up touchdown drives. The team continued to use a two-tight end formation in 2004, as Jonathan was only able to gain 177 yards on thirteen catches (13.6 avg). Three of those receptions were good for touchdowns and twelve of those catches turned into first down plays, including converting seven third-down plays. Nine of his catches came on Badger scoring drives. In 39 games for the Badgers, Jonathan has 67 receptions for 1,136 yards (17.0 avg) and eleven touchdowns. His eleven scores rank eighth on the school's career-record list.
SCOUTING ANALYSIS
Jonathan is a special athlete with outstanding timed speed. He is a naturally strong player who is field fast and carries his equipment well. He is very sudden out of his cuts and can catch cornerbacks off balance, as he sets up the defender well and has the speed to run by his opponent, showing a great kick to the ball in the open field. He is a natural hands catcher who has the body control and flexibility to make proper body adjustments in attempts to catch the off-target passes. He is very aggressive up field after the catch, showing the head fakes and moves to set up the defender.
In 2002, it looked like he was well on his way to establishing school receiving records before his career would come to an end. However, the team's quarterbacking situation the last two seasons has seen the passing game greatly suffer at Wisconsin. On the field, few receivers can match Orr's reaction to the ball and body adjustment skills. He has that blazing first step to get into his routes immediately, using his hands and long arms to defeat the jam and avoid contact at the line of scrimmage. His explosion off the ball can push the defensive backs out of their backpedal. He runs precise patterns and leverages his opponents with weaves and transition in and out of his breaks.
Orr is a very capable short area target, doing a nice job of using his frame to shield the defender off the ball. He has the natural hands to make all the catches and is especially alert to come back when the quarterback is flushed out of the pocket. He has the plant and cut ability to combine with his speed to create separation. Orr also has crisp, precise footwork to gain movement and release off the line with ease.
Jonathan does an excellent job of tracking the ball in flight, showing the body control to catch the ball near the sidelines or look the ball in over his shoulders while not losing stride. He moves to frame the ball well and has the ability to catch outside the body's framework. He has good RAC ability, but because he is used mostly on curls, crossing patterns and underneath routes, he has not been given enough opportunity to display that ability the last two seasons. Because of the poor quarterback situation, he has had to work on other areas of his game. He is a decent cut blocker who makes good effort, but does not have the raw power to be effective in that area when asked to block in-line.
He is smart enough to create opportunities for himself, but unless the team can find an arm at the quarterback position, Jonathan will continue to be one of the best-kept secrets in the college game. Given a chance to touch the ball as much as he did as a senior and Orr will rank among the elite of the 2006 draft class.
SCOUTING REPORT
Positives…Has outstanding quickness and burst to get into his pass routes…Eats up the cushion quickly and is quick to plant and cut to push the defensive backs out of their backpedal…Uses his hands and long arms to defeat the press and moves cleanly off the snap to get into his routes…Weaves to leverage and set up the defender and has very quick transition skills in and out of his breaks…Settles into the zone easily and is very aware of the boundaries and chains…Becomes available quickly on the blitz and does a nice job of tracking the ball in flight…Has the vertical speed to consistently get open and does a great job of turning the defensive bal on a route, showing that extra gear needed to run away from his opponent.
Has sure hands, doing a good job of securing the ball before turning up field…Excels at slipping and sliding into vacant spots underneath, using his frame to shield the ball from the defender…Has the acceleration to run down the overthrown pass and does an excellent job of maintaining concentration on the ball when working over the middle…Capable of tracking the ball and catching it with his natural hands, doing a nice job of hauling the ball in away from the body's framework…Shows tremendous courage going over the middle and has good production after taking on initial impact after the catch…Quick to turn in and out of his patterns, getting his head around immediately to react to the ball in flight.
Negatives…Has lacked production the last two years, but it is the result of a poor quarter-back situation on the team (218 of 302 incomplete passes the last two years were either over- or under-thrown)…Some scouts question his RAC (yards after catch) ability, but Orr has had limited chances to catch the ball and he has converted 53 of his 67 career catches into first downs…Gives good effort as a cut blocker, but lacks the strength to be more than a position/pester type when asked to block at the line of scrimmage.
CAMPUS AGILITY TESTS
4.31 in the 40-yard dash…260-pound bench press…410-pound squat…275-pound power clean…38-inch vertical jump…33 7/8-inch arm length…9 5/8-inch hands…Right-handed… Wears contacts…22/27 Wonderlic score.
Orr was a Prep Star and Super Prep All-American receiver at Detroit powerhouse Henry Ford High School. He was rated one of the nation's top receivers according to Prep Star and was a first-team All-State choice by the Detroit News. Jonathan averaged 30.1 yards on 25 grabs for 753 yards and eleven touchdowns during his senior season. He earned All-City honors with 30 receptions for 705 yards and ten touchdowns as a junior. Jonathan excelled in track, running the 100 meters in 10.6 seconds. Jonathan also served as class president.
He redshirted as a freshman at Wisconsin in 2001, suiting up for the Michigan and Minnesota games. In 2002, Jonathan exploded on the collegiate scene for the Badgers, finishing second on the squad with 47 receptions for 842 yards (17.9 avg) and eight touchdowns, earning second-team Freshman All-American honors from The Sporting News. His 47 grabs rank ninth on the school's season-record list while his 842 yards rank fifth. Only Al Toon (9 in 1984 and Lee Evans (9 in 2001 and 13 in 2003) had more touch-down catches in a season for Wisconsin. What was even more impressive was the fact that 35 of those receptions resulted in first downs, including eight that he converted on third-down plays while sixteen of those catches came on scoring drives.
The team then shifted to a predominantly ground attack over the next two years. Jonathan was limited to seven catches for 117 yards (16.7 avg) in 2003, but six of those grabs resulted in first downs, with three of those grabs setting up touchdown drives. The team continued to use a two-tight end formation in 2004, as Jonathan was only able to gain 177 yards on thirteen catches (13.6 avg). Three of those receptions were good for touchdowns and twelve of those catches turned into first down plays, including converting seven third-down plays. Nine of his catches came on Badger scoring drives. In 39 games for the Badgers, Jonathan has 67 receptions for 1,136 yards (17.0 avg) and eleven touchdowns. His eleven scores rank eighth on the school's career-record list.
SCOUTING ANALYSIS
Jonathan is a special athlete with outstanding timed speed. He is a naturally strong player who is field fast and carries his equipment well. He is very sudden out of his cuts and can catch cornerbacks off balance, as he sets up the defender well and has the speed to run by his opponent, showing a great kick to the ball in the open field. He is a natural hands catcher who has the body control and flexibility to make proper body adjustments in attempts to catch the off-target passes. He is very aggressive up field after the catch, showing the head fakes and moves to set up the defender.
In 2002, it looked like he was well on his way to establishing school receiving records before his career would come to an end. However, the team's quarterbacking situation the last two seasons has seen the passing game greatly suffer at Wisconsin. On the field, few receivers can match Orr's reaction to the ball and body adjustment skills. He has that blazing first step to get into his routes immediately, using his hands and long arms to defeat the jam and avoid contact at the line of scrimmage. His explosion off the ball can push the defensive backs out of their backpedal. He runs precise patterns and leverages his opponents with weaves and transition in and out of his breaks.
Orr is a very capable short area target, doing a nice job of using his frame to shield the defender off the ball. He has the natural hands to make all the catches and is especially alert to come back when the quarterback is flushed out of the pocket. He has the plant and cut ability to combine with his speed to create separation. Orr also has crisp, precise footwork to gain movement and release off the line with ease.
Jonathan does an excellent job of tracking the ball in flight, showing the body control to catch the ball near the sidelines or look the ball in over his shoulders while not losing stride. He moves to frame the ball well and has the ability to catch outside the body's framework. He has good RAC ability, but because he is used mostly on curls, crossing patterns and underneath routes, he has not been given enough opportunity to display that ability the last two seasons. Because of the poor quarterback situation, he has had to work on other areas of his game. He is a decent cut blocker who makes good effort, but does not have the raw power to be effective in that area when asked to block in-line.
He is smart enough to create opportunities for himself, but unless the team can find an arm at the quarterback position, Jonathan will continue to be one of the best-kept secrets in the college game. Given a chance to touch the ball as much as he did as a senior and Orr will rank among the elite of the 2006 draft class.
SCOUTING REPORT
Positives…Has outstanding quickness and burst to get into his pass routes…Eats up the cushion quickly and is quick to plant and cut to push the defensive backs out of their backpedal…Uses his hands and long arms to defeat the press and moves cleanly off the snap to get into his routes…Weaves to leverage and set up the defender and has very quick transition skills in and out of his breaks…Settles into the zone easily and is very aware of the boundaries and chains…Becomes available quickly on the blitz and does a nice job of tracking the ball in flight…Has the vertical speed to consistently get open and does a great job of turning the defensive bal on a route, showing that extra gear needed to run away from his opponent.
Has sure hands, doing a good job of securing the ball before turning up field…Excels at slipping and sliding into vacant spots underneath, using his frame to shield the ball from the defender…Has the acceleration to run down the overthrown pass and does an excellent job of maintaining concentration on the ball when working over the middle…Capable of tracking the ball and catching it with his natural hands, doing a nice job of hauling the ball in away from the body's framework…Shows tremendous courage going over the middle and has good production after taking on initial impact after the catch…Quick to turn in and out of his patterns, getting his head around immediately to react to the ball in flight.
Negatives…Has lacked production the last two years, but it is the result of a poor quarter-back situation on the team (218 of 302 incomplete passes the last two years were either over- or under-thrown)…Some scouts question his RAC (yards after catch) ability, but Orr has had limited chances to catch the ball and he has converted 53 of his 67 career catches into first downs…Gives good effort as a cut blocker, but lacks the strength to be more than a position/pester type when asked to block at the line of scrimmage.
CAMPUS AGILITY TESTS
4.31 in the 40-yard dash…260-pound bench press…410-pound squat…275-pound power clean…38-inch vertical jump…33 7/8-inch arm length…9 5/8-inch hands…Right-handed… Wears contacts…22/27 Wonderlic score.
Nicky Napoleon
We'll Miss You Nubs
Well then....Ummmmm somebody sign this guy
kastofsna120 said:
I agree
Jimi
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Hey my last name is Orr.... :cpatch:
Orr and Williams are both good, but will be mid-late round picks. Neither are as good as Evans or Chambers.
I wonder if they'll be just like those two, have great rookie seasons, then kind of disapear at times? (in case you are wandering, I'm taking a shot at CC bashers)
I wonder if they'll be just like those two, have great rookie seasons, then kind of disapear at times? (in case you are wandering, I'm taking a shot at CC bashers)
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MonkeyDog said:
Jimi
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MonkeyDog said:
thtd make for some interesting conversation
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I think already this year we have seen the fruits of Saban's talent evaluation and if Orr is the real deal then he'll pick him up in the later rounds.
Maynard the Hammer
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ive been thinking the fins should draft a WR in the middle rounds. maybe this is the guy
kastofsna120
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i wouldn't be surprised if he jumps into the late 1st round from his combine
Nicky Napoleon
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Maynard said:
This was the reason I started this thread, we need a burner opposite CC and allow Booker or Welker to be the slot posession reciever. Now I dont want to spend an early pick on a WR due to needs in other areas but a 4th or 6th wouldnt be a bad idea. And this guy seems to have a TON of upside which is more of what you are looking for in the later rounds.
Hey Dolphin Fans... glad to hear we're not the only group of fans that are already talking about the draft!
I'm in Wisconsin and have watched Orr for the last 4 years...you don't want him. Chambers is 5 times the player he is. Orr is pretty much a track guy playing reciever, always has and always will be. He's a very poor route runner, isn't quick at all in or out of breaks, not really coordinated (smooth), drops a lot of balls, and lacks awareness. He's a one trick pony (deep ball) and I'm not so sure he'd be able to beat many people deep. He reminds me of a poor mans Corey Bradford (ex packer wr) with less speed and worse hands. not much.
Good luck on the draft guys!
I'm in Wisconsin and have watched Orr for the last 4 years...you don't want him. Chambers is 5 times the player he is. Orr is pretty much a track guy playing reciever, always has and always will be. He's a very poor route runner, isn't quick at all in or out of breaks, not really coordinated (smooth), drops a lot of balls, and lacks awareness. He's a one trick pony (deep ball) and I'm not so sure he'd be able to beat many people deep. He reminds me of a poor mans Corey Bradford (ex packer wr) with less speed and worse hands. not much.
Good luck on the draft guys!