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Being a lifelong BYU fan and a lifelong Dolphin admirerer, I am grateful to mesh these two interests. Allow me to share thought, one that is not new, but one that I can put a fresh look on.

I grew up watching 5 consensus first team all american quarterbacks at BYU. One that won the Heisman and two that won super bowls including one who was an NFL MVP. Another won the National Championship at BYU. Another came in third in the Heisman voting. BYU gave birth to the west coast offense that Bill Walsh incorporated for the 49ers. In short, BYU fans have seen and known great offenses and great quarterbacks.

After Detmer left in the 1990's, BYU had never had a first team AA qb. THey had a few very very good qb's. Sarkisian, the QB coach at USC and Doman, the QB coach at BYU both had incredible careers. Most everyone else fell short. And BYU fans let them know their short comings by booing their own qb. The joke at BYU was that the most popular person on campus is the back up qb.

Beck came in, fresh off not excercising for 2 years and got thrown in a game against Stanford. He threw an interception, got sacked and fumbled on his first three plays of the game. This was in the midst of the worst three years at BYU since the 1960's (pre-Lavell Edwards).

He generally got massacred his freshmen year and injured. His body wasn't anymore prepared than his mind was after his mission to Portugal. Trust me, having served a mission, your mind is not on football.

He got the crap knocked out of him. But the coach, Gary Crowton (new OC at LSU) recognized that he as an unbelievable talent. Crowton may have really hurt him by continuing to throw him into awful situations. A lesser qb would have shriveled. He didn't.

His junior year he had his third OC in as many years. But this one was very patient and developed an offense that wouldn't get the qb injured. Robert Anae, a BYU grad and product of Mike Leach at Texas Tech, incorporated old BYU and new TT to fit Beck.

The offensive line matured.

And so did Beck.

I say all this because, while realizing that BYU is not Miami for qb's, its about as tough as it gets on failing passers. The fans completely evicerate those who fail. They have no patience for failure of any kind. Detmer, Young and McMahon's accomplishments have risen beyond all reason.

And Beck rose to the occasion. He wasn't first team AA. But he was third team in many publications, and if the media wasn't so in love with Quinn, he may have been first.

Air Force played both teams last year and said Quinn was okay (I think he is excellent) but that he was not nearly as hard to play against as Beck.

BYU fans adore the guy now, as much for his football skills as his ability to put his head down and work like hell.
 
Good post. Glad to see you contribute, noob.
 
very nice read son.. Ya i just finished wathcin this video of Beck and booker on Youtube... the guy seems really down to earth and alot more honest than Quinn, I can see it in his body langauge Quinn seems like a very fake person and Beck likes to crack up jokes and seems like a guy who really can get along with eveyone on the team :D

Thats what i thought... your opnionss
 
renodolphin said:
Being a lifelong BYU fan and a lifelong Dolphin admirerer, I am grateful to mesh these two interests. Allow me to share thought, one that is not new, but one that I can put a fresh look on.

I grew up watching 5 consensus first team all american quarterbacks at BYU. One that won the Heisman and two that won super bowls including one who was an NFL MVP. Another won the National Championship at BYU. Another came in third in the Heisman voting. BYU gave birth to the west coast offense that Bill Walsh incorporated for the 49ers. In short, BYU fans have seen and known great offenses and great quarterbacks.

After Detmer left in the 1990's, BYU had never had a first team AA qb. THey had a few very very good qb's. Sarkisian, the QB coach at USC and Doman, the QB coach at BYU both had incredible careers. Most everyone else fell short. And BYU fans let them know their short comings by booing their own qb. The joke at BYU was that the most popular person on campus is the back up qb.

Beck came in, fresh off not excercising for 2 years and got thrown in a game against Stanford. He threw an interception, got sacked and fumbled on his first three plays of the game. This was in the midst of the worst three years at BYU since the 1960's (pre-Lavell Edwards).

He generally got massacred his freshmen year and injured. His body wasn't anymore prepared than his mind was after his mission to Portugal. Trust me, having served a mission, your mind is not on football.

He got the crap knocked out of him. But the coach, Gary Crowton (new OC at LSU) recognized that he as an unbelievable talent. Crowton may have really hurt him by continuing to throw him into awful situations. A lesser qb would have shriveled. He didn't.

His junior year he had his third OC in as many years. But this one was very patient and developed an offense that wouldn't get the qb injured. Robert Anae, a BYU grad and product of Mike Leach at Texas Tech, incorporated old BYU and new TT to fit Beck.

The offensive line matured.

And so did Beck.

I say all this because, while realizing that BYU is not Miami for qb's, its about as tough as it gets on failing passers. The fans completely evicerate those who fail. They have no patience for failure of any kind. Detmer, Young and McMahon's accomplishments have risen beyond all reason.

And Beck rose to the occasion. He wasn't first team AA. But he was third team in many publications, and if the media wasn't so in love with Quinn, he may have been first.

Air Force played both teams last year and said Quinn was okay (I think he is excellent) but that he was not nearly as hard to play against as Beck.

BYU fans adore the guy now, as much for his football skills as his ability to put his head down and work like hell.
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Good post dude! Yeah i Know little about BYU from when they were in the WAC. There used to be some battles in Aloha Stadium. Used to be hawaii's arch enemy. I don't see 'em that way since y'all defected from the WAC. But would love the rivalry to start up again.
 
Very nice post, you should also know here that the backup QB is the favorite player for many people. You wouldn't believe how many Lemon should start threads we have had to suffer though.
 
I figured

That once the season starts I will have nothing fresh or original up and above what you guys know, so I might as well share another thing now.

Someone on another post in another thread wanted to know if Beck had the cajones to be an NFL qb. Well, I guess nothing is guaranteed, but consider that Beck already has done one thing that no other drafted player in this year's draft has done.

First, he took two years, learned another language, stopped any kind of extensive exercise when he was in the absolute prime of athletic ability and moved to a foreign country to wander around with a suit on 365 days a year. I cannot imagine that very many people in the NFL would do that, nor can I imagine it to be a recipe for success very often. Steve Young never went. But Beck did. I need to emphasize that when he got back he literally got the living crap knocked out of him. The Stanford game was really bad. USC pulverized him. Notre Dame knocked him unconscious.

But he kept getting up and fought harder every time. He became smoother in his delivery. And quicker. He sense of defenses is legendary (and this is a staple of many BYU qb's based on what is asked of them) He fights hard. Though I have never seen the cajones!, I cannot imagine many having bigger.

Also, you all need to realize the competitive nature of Mormons in general. Its kind of insane actually. Kind of this built in mentality to be the very best you can possibly be and to work like crazy to get there. I cannot imagine Beck getting outworked.
 
renodolphin said:
That once the season starts I will have nothing fresh or original up and above what you guys know, so I might as well share another thing now.

Someone on another post in another thread wanted to know if Beck had the cajones to be an NFL qb. Well, I guess nothing is guaranteed, but consider that Beck already has done one thing that no other drafted player in this year's draft has done.

First, he took two years, learned another language, stopped any kind of extensive exercise when he was in the absolute prime of athletic ability and moved to a foreign country to wander around with a suit on 365 days a year. I cannot imagine that very many people in the NFL would do that, nor can I imagine it to be a recipe for success very often. Steve Young never went. But Beck did. I need to emphasize that when he got back he literally got the living crap knocked out of him. The Stanford game was really bad. USC pulverized him. Notre Dame knocked him unconscious.

But he kept getting up and fought harder every time. He became smoother in his delivery. And quicker. He sense of defenses is legendary (and this is a staple of many BYU qb's based on what is asked of them) He fights hard. Though I have never seen the cajones!, I cannot imagine many having bigger.

Also, you all need to realize the competitive nature of Mormons in general. Its kind of insane actually. Kind of this built in mentality to be the very best you can possibly be and to work like crazy to get there. I cannot imagine Beck getting outworked.
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You know though we have had bad luck with players that leave and go wander around foreign countries. :(

But really you do make a good point, he is very mature and hard working. I really hope that he can learn to run an offense like Peyton because having a QB that is smart enough to read a defense and call a play that will beat that defense is hard to find. If he is one of those guys he could be a great player in the NFL.
 
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