Just saw some clips from Saban's P.C.....

[Phins13]

:) He placed some blame on the O line, Some to the running backs, some to soft coverage , some to W.R's dropping balls,some to bad penalties, some to defensive players not keeping their gap responsibilties.... Basically everything I saw and screamed about yesterday.. He saw and will correct. He is the FIRST coach i can remember that sees all the same mistakes that we all see...all the ones that Head coaches rarely admit to....Just love this guy!!!! Bottom line from him is BETTER EXECUTION=BETTER RESULTS....No panic... just ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!! Go get em' Nick :evil:

 

[phinsfan1989]

good post i gurantee saban will be on every player this week

GO PHINS

 

[Predaphin]

:) He placed some blame on the O line, Some to the running backs, some to soft coverage , some to W.R's dropping balls,some to bad penalties, some to defensive players not keeping their gap responsibilties.... Basically everything I saw and screamed about yesterday.. He saw and will correct. He is the FIRST coach i can remember that sees all the same mistakes that we all see...all the ones that Head coaches rarely admit to....Just love this guy!!!! Bottom line from him is BETTER EXECUTION=BETTER RESULTS....No panic... just ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!! Go get em' Nick :evil:

wtf??? "some to bad penalties"...is there such thing as good ones???

I hope he didn't really say that about penalties because this should be one of the biggest concerns, we HAVE TO CUT DOWN ON ALL THE PENALTIES IF WE WANT TO WIN...

 

[Phins13]

Even handled the media...

Told them the answer to every single question they would ask would be better technique, better execution, better results. Easy,precise, nothing left to say

 

[DPlus47]

that's what leadership looks like. not that we're used to it around here...

 

[PhenomenalPhin]

I think what he meant by "bad penalties" are the penalties at the worst possible moment, like 3rd and 2 on offense, and then getting a false start and going back yardage. Or having the jets 2nd and 20 and going offsides on defense.

 

[Phins13]

wtf??? "some to bad penalties"...is there such thing as good ones???

I hope he didn't really say that about penalties because this should be one of the biggest concerns, we HAVE TO CUT DOWN ON ALL THE PENALTIES IF WE WANT TO WIN...

I think he was refering to Channing Crowder's late hit and a pass int. penalty to Shulters that kept drives alive and were not mental lapses. For sure there are no good penalties.... but ones that should be easily corrected.....Crowders is one that i am sure will not happen again.

 

[KyPhinfan13]

:) He placed some blame on the O line, Some to the running backs, some to soft coverage , some to W.R's dropping balls,some to bad penalties, some to defensive players not keeping their gap responsibilties.... Basically everything I saw and screamed about yesterday.. He saw and will correct. He is the FIRST coach i can remember that sees all the same mistakes that we all see...all the ones that Head coaches rarely admit to....Just love this guy!!!! Bottom line from him is BETTER EXECUTION=BETTER RESULTS....No panic... just ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!! Go get em' Nick :evil:

Finally, a post that is optimistic but not overly. I get so tired of everyone predicting playoffs one week then screaming "the sky is falling" the next.

 

[ckparrothead]

Hmm, I agree, but I also believe that the coaching staff needs to look to themselves a little as well. It would not be like Saban to undermine player confidence in their coaching staff by calling out coordinator Scott Linehan or defensive play-caller Will Muschamp, but I believe they were both equally culpable for this defeat.

Linehan refused to move Chris Chambers to get him away from Ty Law, he did not use three and four receiver formations to exploit weakneses (ie. David Barrett), the coaching staff continues to insert David Boston into the lineup based on what he did in the NFL three years ago and not based on the continued lack of effort and intensity he shows, and he under-utilized Wes Welker. In the running game, what you noticed was that Linehan called a bunch of stretch plays with Ronnie Brown despite the fact that the Jets were crashing the outside with with Eric Barton and their safeties, and winning their matchups between their corners and our wide receivers in run blocking. Ronnie Brown is not stretch play Denver Bronco style cutback runner. What you noticed with Sammy Morris having success was the play-calling was actually different. They gave Sammy the kind of run plays that they should have been giving Ronnie.

I know Randy McMichael is a gamer and he's great I love the guy, but keeping our three- and four-receiver formations off the field in favor of two tight ends just because the Jets were using double teams to cover up David Barrett's weaknesses was not going to win us the game because as an offense we do not have the ability to string together twelve play drives without shooting ourselves in the foot somewhere along the way with a penalty or stupid mistake. Lorenzo Diamond is practically useless as a blocker(think Jed Weaver). If you had to choose who is more likely to affect the game in a positive way between David Boston, Wes Welker, and Lorenzo Diamond, the answer is EMPHATICALLY Wes Welker.

And on defense, either Will Muschamp did a bad job calling plays, or the defensive game plan was inferior, because the Dolphins failed to exploit Chad Pennington's weaknesses and instead played to his strengths. His strengths are accuracy and finding the holes between zones. His weaknesses are handling pressure, taking care of the football, and making pre-snap reads on where the blitz is coming from. Against the Broncos, the Dolphins didn't get past the A's in their phone book of a playbook because they didn't need to use a whole lot of different package blitzes to pressure Plummer. In this game they DID need to, and they still refused to come out of the base too often. On 3rd and long you send a god damn package blitz in that makes Pennington look like a deer in headlights and you have the few coverage guys left take away the underneath stuff and hot routes. If Pennington can fire off a quick ball deeeeeep down the field to a streaking WR that doesn't float so long that it allows your DB to catch up then so be it let him try that...but I don't think he can do that in his weakened state.

 

[FinaciousOne]

wtf??? "some to bad penalties"...is there such thing as good ones???

I hope he didn't really say that about penalties because this should be one of the biggest concerns, we HAVE TO CUT DOWN ON ALL THE PENALTIES IF WE WANT TO WIN...

While I agree that the goal should be to eliminate all penalties, there are times when a penalty could be preferred to the results of the play in the absence of the penalty.

A holding penalty may save your QB's career.
A collar tackle penalty may prevent a touchdown.
An interference penalty may prevent a touchdown.

The pre-snap penalties have got to go.
The defensive offsides are resulting from not controlling their anxiousness to make a play. One wants to keep the aggressivness but control it better.
The same thing applies to the false starts. The lineman are anxious to not miss the initial burst on the snap and are moving too soon.

The good news is that these things can be fixed.

 

[ckparrothead]

The good news is that these things can be fixed.

I'm tired of hearing that. Is anyone else tired of hearing it? The Dolphins have been claiming that these things can be fixed for what, 7 games now? That's all we heard during the preseason, all we heard heading into the Broncos game, and all we hear now after the Jets game. What if they CAN'T be fixed? Including preseason last year, the regular season last year, preseason this year, and these two games, I honestly am not sure that the Dolphins will eliminate this stuff until they find the success that alleviates the pressure that causes these stupid errors.

For now, if I'm the Dolphins coaches, I'm game-planning for penalties, game-planning for errors. And, I'm firing or demoting people who continually commit errors or show lack of effort on the field. I start with David Boston, who officially goes down to 4th or even 5th WR on my depth chart below BOTH Wes Welker AND Bryan Gilmore.

 

[Grumpy]

I think what he meant by "bad penalties" are the penalties at the worst possible moment, like 3rd and 2 on offense, and then getting a false start and going back yardage. Or having the jets 2nd and 20 and going offsides on defense.

Exactly right, bad penalties are the ones that kill your drive or keep the opposing teams drive alive when you've stopped them.

An offsides when they're on their own 10 yard line and it's first and 10, not really a big deal. An offsides when they're on your 20 and it was 3rd and 2 and you just gave them first down to keep a drive alive for a TD instead of settling for a FG, BIG penalty.

 

[FinaciousOne]

I'm tired of hearing that. Is anyone else tired of hearing it? The Dolphins have been claiming that these things can be fixed for what, 7 games now? That's all we heard during the preseason, all we heard heading into the Broncos game, and all we hear now after the Jets game. What if they CAN'T be fixed? Including preseason last year, the regular season last year, preseason this year, and these two games, I honestly am not sure that the Dolphins will eliminate this stuff until they find the success that alleviates the pressure that causes these stupid errors.

For now, if I'm the Dolphins coaches, I'm game-planning for penalties, game-planning for errors. And, I'm firing or demoting people who continually commit errors or show lack of effort on the field. I start with David Boston, who officially goes down to 4th or even 5th WR on my depth chart below BOTH Wes Welker AND Bryan Gilmore.

"......until they find the success that alleviates the pressure that causes these stupid errors." i.e. "fixed"

"What if they CAN'T be fixed?"

Then I guess we'll all have to take up knitting.

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

I'm tired of hearing that. Is anyone else tired of hearing it? The Dolphins have been claiming that these things can be fixed for what, 7 games now? That's all we heard during the preseason, all we heard heading into the Broncos game, and all we hear now after the Jets game. What if they CAN'T be fixed? Including preseason last year, the regular season last year, preseason this year, and these two games, I honestly am not sure that the Dolphins will eliminate this stuff until they find the success that alleviates the pressure that causes these stupid errors.

For now, if I'm the Dolphins coaches, I'm game-planning for penalties, game-planning for errors. And, I'm firing or demoting people who continually commit errors or show lack of effort on the field. I start with David Boston, who officially goes down to 4th or even 5th WR on my depth chart below BOTH Wes Welker AND Bryan Gilmore.

no, that is why there is coaching

 

[Disnardo]

What if they CAN'T be fixed?

Sorry I have not posted earlier, have been reading posts since yesterday,and was not in the mood to respond to some of them...

I was kind of convinced we would win yesterday, nuff said...

But in answer to your question CK, maybe the team in its internal way of running things can install a penalizing format...

This team and players already have their Charities and Community programs so it can be used like this. It can work by holding the player accountable for his actions, as identified by the coaching staff. A certain amount of his salary (as long as it is not against the NLFPA), like $50.00 or $75.00, per infraction, can be taken and given to this charity...

I think it would be a good PR move by the team, if they decide to make it public. In other words, making something good out of something bad...

Hopefully the players would not like to see themselves in that chart and will reduce or eliminate their mistakes...

What do you think?