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Kb/Boomer what do you two know about Roth, how do you think he'll do and do you think it was a good pick?
KB/Boomer, Your Opinion?
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And tell us if he might be pegged to play an OLB role in a 3-4. He's a former LB.
kiper said as good as pollack....roth is a late first he thought.
high motor tough blue chip guy saban played against.....awesome immediate impact
capable of olb in 3-4 also
Overview: Matthew Roth is regarded as one of the premier pass rushers in the collegiate ranks and one of the toughest players in the country. He is a blue-chip prospect with a blue-collar work ethic. Roth is a colorful character who plays the game as if he is on a "search and destroy" mission. He is the source of a campus urban legend, as many Hawkeyes talk of the time Roth challenged and cleared out an entire bar in a fight. Even in practices, the coaches have to pray he stays under control. They will generally blow the whistle early on plays, so Roth does not hurt any of the offensive players. There are times where he plays with such intensity in practices that the coaches must sit him down, even for walk-throughs. Roth was a standout linebacker and fullback at Willowbrook (Ill.) High. He was a consensus All-State pick and named Illinois High School Athlete of the Year by the Chicago Tribune as a senior, totaling 161 tackles with four sacks, 23 stops for losses, 10 forced fumbles and a state-record 12 blocked kicks. He also scored four times while gaining 307 yards rushing. Roth began his Iowa career as a middle linebacker, recording 19 tackles (12 solo) in 12 games as a reserve in 2001. He shifted to the defensive line in 2002, as the coaches felt he played with too much reckless abandon to be effective as a linebacker. Roth responded to the move by recording 48 tackles (22 solo) with 10 sacks, 11 stops behind the line of scrimmage and 11 quarterback pressures, despite starting only one game. Roth took over left end duties in 2003, collecting 51 tackles (32 solo) with 12 sacks, 16 stops for losses and four forced fumbles. Only Leroy Smith (18 in 1991) had more sacks in a season for the Hawkeyes. With an addional 10 pounds of muscle on his frame in 2004, Roth put together a banner senior season, earning All-American honors. He ranked fourth in the Big 10 Conference with eight sacks and registered 15 stops for losses (sixth in the Big 10), eight pressures and 49 tackles (34 solo) while leading the conference with three forced fumbles. In 49 games, he started 25 times, recording 167 tackles (100 solo) with 23 quarterback pressures, thirty sacks for minus-192 yards, 43 stops for losses of 224 yards, eight forced fumbles, a fumble recovery and a pass deflection. His 30 career sacks rank third in school history, topped only by Mike Wells (33, 1990-93) and Jared DeVries (42, 1995-98). Only Wells (54) and DeVries (78) registered more tackles behind the line of scrimmage in a career for the Hawkeyes.
high motor tough blue chip guy saban played against.....awesome immediate impact
capable of olb in 3-4 also
Overview: Matthew Roth is regarded as one of the premier pass rushers in the collegiate ranks and one of the toughest players in the country. He is a blue-chip prospect with a blue-collar work ethic. Roth is a colorful character who plays the game as if he is on a "search and destroy" mission. He is the source of a campus urban legend, as many Hawkeyes talk of the time Roth challenged and cleared out an entire bar in a fight. Even in practices, the coaches have to pray he stays under control. They will generally blow the whistle early on plays, so Roth does not hurt any of the offensive players. There are times where he plays with such intensity in practices that the coaches must sit him down, even for walk-throughs. Roth was a standout linebacker and fullback at Willowbrook (Ill.) High. He was a consensus All-State pick and named Illinois High School Athlete of the Year by the Chicago Tribune as a senior, totaling 161 tackles with four sacks, 23 stops for losses, 10 forced fumbles and a state-record 12 blocked kicks. He also scored four times while gaining 307 yards rushing. Roth began his Iowa career as a middle linebacker, recording 19 tackles (12 solo) in 12 games as a reserve in 2001. He shifted to the defensive line in 2002, as the coaches felt he played with too much reckless abandon to be effective as a linebacker. Roth responded to the move by recording 48 tackles (22 solo) with 10 sacks, 11 stops behind the line of scrimmage and 11 quarterback pressures, despite starting only one game. Roth took over left end duties in 2003, collecting 51 tackles (32 solo) with 12 sacks, 16 stops for losses and four forced fumbles. Only Leroy Smith (18 in 1991) had more sacks in a season for the Hawkeyes. With an addional 10 pounds of muscle on his frame in 2004, Roth put together a banner senior season, earning All-American honors. He ranked fourth in the Big 10 Conference with eight sacks and registered 15 stops for losses (sixth in the Big 10), eight pressures and 49 tackles (34 solo) while leading the conference with three forced fumbles. In 49 games, he started 25 times, recording 167 tackles (100 solo) with 23 quarterback pressures, thirty sacks for minus-192 yards, 43 stops for losses of 224 yards, eight forced fumbles, a fumble recovery and a pass deflection. His 30 career sacks rank third in school history, topped only by Mike Wells (33, 1990-93) and Jared DeVries (42, 1995-98). Only Wells (54) and DeVries (78) registered more tackles behind the line of scrimmage in a career for the Hawkeyes.
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Kiper just said he is a hybrid type of player. As good as David Pollack, seemed to like the value we got with the second rounder.
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FinSinceBirth said:
I'm neither, but I'll tell you what I think.
AWESOME value pick. Roth is high intensity and he's very quick and strong off the edge. Never quits playing until the whistle is blown. He's got great instincts and has tremendous heart and character. He's what will be known as a "Saban player" in two years. He was moved to DE in 2002, so he has LB expirence. He's probably going to be used all over the place (since Saban will run a lot of schemes)
I love this pick.
Also, KB said a while back that Roth was seen wearing aDolphns T-shirt (they gave them to all the kids they interviewed).
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GRT8 said:
I did like what Kiper said about roth.
Analysis: Positives Roth is a well-built athlete with a powerful upper body, long arms, broad shoulders, quick feet, above average explosion off the snap, narrow hips, thick thighs and calves. His quickness allows him to be very effective on stunts, playing with his hand down wide to the open side to get after the quarterback instantly coming out of his stance. He does an excellent job of generating a strong hand punch, showing good extension to keep the blockers off his body to shed. Roth plays with superb field awareness and has very good agility for his position, making plays in pursuit. He demonstrates an explosive initial burst and can flash upfield, displaying fine foot agility when dropping off in pass coverage. Roth comes off his stance ready to deliver forceful inside counter moves on his upfield rush and has excellent recovery speed in pursuit. While he might be a little stiff in his hips and can sometimes come off the snap a little high in his stance, he uses his power to gain leverage and is very combative with his arms (rip and swim moves) to prevent blockers from containing him. Roth has the short area agility to penetrate the line, collapse the pocket and pressure the quarterback, doing a very nice job of keeping his feet as he works well transferring his weight. He has developed into a disruptive pass rusher who gains leverage with his strong straight-ahead charge off the snap. Roth stays in control and has a sharp and sudden burst coming off the edge as a pass rusher. He also uses his short area speed to collapse the pocket and bring down the quarterback in the backfield. His lateral and up field quickness allows him to consistently get past the offensive tackle when attempting to penetrate. Roth generates explosion as a pass rusher and is very fluid delivering secondary moves after his initial thrust into the pile. He might need to add bulk to play at the next level, but his upper body strength is evident by the way he can rip, stalk and drag blockers down with his hands. Roth uses an explosive first step to gain advantage, but when he gets high in his stance (mostly when redirecting inside), he struggles to disengage, but his lateral agility lets him slip off blocks. He has very good leg drive and lower body strength to gain leverage and prevent the opponent from moving him out when coming off the edge. Roth is best when playing on the move, as he has an uncanny knack for sifting out the play, spotting the ball and then squeezing through tight spaces to zero in on the ball carrier or passer. His hands are a great asset, as he is very effective delivering good spin and swim moves to penetrate the backfield, control blockers and keep separation. He takes dead aim on the quarterback and has the explosive burst to get to his man. Roth is a high energy type who does a good job of clearing his feet when chasing.
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I'm not KB or Boom but I'll tell you what I AM -- Happy!!
It took a little time to come around but it's evident we made the right decision. Roth is a monster, he can dominate, close gaps, murder people with his tackles. he has good speed off the ends.
It is more evident that Carter will play a DT role and we now have a lot of depth along the D. Line and will use it all. Roth can also drop back into the OLB.
It took a little time to come around but it's evident we made the right decision. Roth is a monster, he can dominate, close gaps, murder people with his tackles. he has good speed off the ends.
It is more evident that Carter will play a DT role and we now have a lot of depth along the D. Line and will use it all. Roth can also drop back into the OLB.
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The guy is crazy. Wow. If we were gonna get a crazy dude I'm surprised it wasn't Dan Cody.
I see the guy and I think of Mike Vrabel.
I see the guy and I think of Mike Vrabel.
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Wow..I called the pick back in middle of round 1. Woohoo!
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Love the pick, especially him being able to play OLB. Carter will probably fill in for Timbo when he gets hurt anyway. Like to see a WR/S/ or QB with next pick tho.
I live in big ten country (PSU) and saw a lot of Iowa games this year. Roth is an absolute beast. Every game the announcers raved about him, and he was in on almost every play. At first it didn't make sense to me in that we just signed some DE's, but Roth is a hybrid guy who I bet Saban will move around; also,Holliday is a stop-gap and Carter is here for 2-3 years. Roth will be a guy who is here for a while. He reminds me of a Mike Vrabel, a Bellichick guy. And we all know about the connection between the two. Besides, our defense could use a guy with a personality like Roth's- vicious.