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Should he be demoted to rotational player?

Although we need definite changes at Safety and LB, does anyone think that Langford is the most invisible player on the field?

I feel that way sometimes about him. He really doesn't make any big plays; even Phillip Merling produces better stats playing in a backup role. I think Tony McDaniel or Phillip Merling (with more strength conditioning) might produce better numbers if given the chance to start.

Oh well, I'm just throwing the thought out there. I like Langford, but since we are always bashing players who don't make enough big plays, I think its time to throw Langford into that conversation too.

What does everyone else think?
 
i don't know man, he's been a starter since day 1 coming out of a small school, and just remember merling and starks are splitting reps because neither can take over langford, and it's agreeable those two are playing very well. I don't really watch 3-4 ends too much, but he's gotta be doing something right.
 
Im fine with his play he is a good run stuffer and gives space for our LBs to make tackles. We got bigger problems then our 3-4 DE which is probably our best position with Starks, Merling and Langford.
 
Yeah, I agree with everyone here so far. I was just curious. He is a very stout at the POA, there is no denying that. It's just he is the least noticed DL on the field out of Starks, Merling, Solai, and McDaniel. But like I said before, it's just a thought I was throwing out there, he is a starter and I was hoping I would see more production out of him this year.
 
mfish41 said:
i don't know man, he's been a starter since day 1 coming out of a small school, and just remember merling and starks are splitting reps because neither can take over langford, and it's agreeable those two are playing very well. I don't really watch 3-4 ends too much, but he's gotta be doing something right.
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I agree, and the only thing I can think of is he is stout at the POA. Is there anything else I'm missing about him?
 
The guy is absolutely STOUT vs the run...he may not get all the stats, but he si a HUGE part of why we stopped MJD last game. The guy is a cornerstone for this D and along with Starks and Merling, they will be around for a long time.
 
foozool13 said:
The guy is absolutely STOUT vs the run...he may not get all the stats, but he si a HUGE part of why we stopped MJD last game. The guy is a cornerstone for this D and along with Starks and Merling, they will be around for a long time.
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I agree with everything you said, except the "cornerstone" part. I'm not trying to knock him, but his progression concerns me A LITTLE BIT. He was actually more visible on the field last year, and this year there are games when it looked like he was never on the field.
 
Langford is a Ty Warren type player. They don't get the big sack numbers, but the are essential to running a 3-4.

Traditionally your LDE is a little bigger than your RDE because most teams like to run the ball to their right. Langford has been very reliable against the run and does a good job of keeping the blockers of the LBs.

Here are the names of some of the other LDEs in the league. You tell me if you see them in the highlight reels all the time as well:

Ty Warren, New England Patriots
Shaun Ellis, New York Jets
Dwan Edwards, Baltimore Ravens
Kenyon Coleman, Cleveland Browns
Travis Kirschke, Pittsburgh Steelers
Jacques Cesaire, San Diego Chargers
Marcus Spears, Dallas Cowboys
Calias Campbell, Arizona Cardinals

Not too many guys in there that make "big plays". These are all guys who man a position that doesn't have a whole lot of flash to it.

In a two gap system, your LDE has to be big and cannot be pushed off the ball. As a rookie Merling had trouble with this and that is why Holliday started over him.

Also, your RDE is usually a little smaller and quicker than the LDE so he can add a pass rush. Look at Richard Seymour and what he did in NE. He was a RDE and was very consistent at getting a pass rush. So, Langford and Starks get into the backfield a whole lot more against the pass because that is what they are asked to do.

I like Langford and he will be a corner stone of this defense for years to come. LDE is not a glamour position, but is essential to having a good 3-4 defense.
 
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All you need to know is you rarely see him being manhandled by OL. Which frees up others for some big plays. I am sure his stout performance has helped Starks in some way.
Chubbs
 
ciscoholgate said:
Langford is a Ty Warren type player. They don't get the big sack numbers, but the are essential to running a 3-4.

Traditionally your LDE is a little bigger than your RDE because most teams like to run the ball to their right. Langford has been very reliable against the run and does a good job of keeping the blockers of the LBs.

Here are the names of some of the other LDEs in the league. You tell me if you see them in the highlight reels all the time as well:

Ty Warren, New England Patriots
Shaun Ellis, New York Jets
Dwan Edwards, Baltimore Ravens
Kenyon Coleman, Cleveland Browns
Travis Kirschke, Pittsburgh Steelers
Jacques Cesaire, San Diego Chargers
Marcus Spears, Dallas Cowboys
Calias Campbell, Arizona Cardinals

Not too many guys in there that make "big plays". These are all guys who man a position that doesn't have a whole lot of flash to it.

In a two gap system, your LDE has to be big and cannot be pushed off the ball. As a rookie Merling had trouble with this and that is why Holliday started over him.

Also, your RDE is usually a little smaller and quicker than the LDE so he can add a pass rush. Look at Richard Seymour and what he did in NE. He was a LDE and was very consistent at getting a pass rush. So, Langford and Starks get into the backfield a whole lot more against the pass because that is what they are asked to do.

I like Langford and he will be a corner stone of this defense for years to come. LDE is not a glamour position, but is essential to having a good 3-4 defense.
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Thanks for the input. You make a lot of sense, and I can't argue with what you said. He is great at the POA, I already pointed out, but is that all is expected from him?

Since he is a 3-4 DE, his primary job is to keep the lineman off the backers, but I would like to see him shed blockers better and make some more tackles too.

I know it's just a small thing, and I already acknowledged that we have far more pressing needs at the LB and S positions, but I have a feeling this topic will be visited down the road afterwards, so I wanted to see what others thought about it.
 
Chubby said:
All you need to know is you rarely see him being manhandled by OL. Which frees up others for some big plays. I am sure his stout performance has helped Starks in some way.
Chubbs
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Yeah, that is probably true too, afterall someone has to do the dirty work. I'm not saying he's a bad player at all. His strength is an asset to this team, but I want to see him raise his game to another level, like Starks has. Out of all of our d-lineman, do you realize only one of them (Starks) is an everydown player for us, and that doesn't concern anyone at all; not even a little bit?
 
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