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…Detrimental in the Outcome of 8 Games…

We lost 2 games by 3 points or less (Bengals and Arizona)…

We lost 3 games by 7 points (Bills, Seattle, and Ravens)…

We lost 1 game by 8 points (Jets)…

We lost 2 games by 10 points (Titans, and Bills)…

As we all know, we spotted these teams 7 points a piece, which came by the way of INTs for TDs. A total of 56 points were spotted to these teams and we lost these games by a total of 50 points.

It’s plain and easy to see that the old coaching staff never adjusted our WR routes (blitz reads), blocking scheme and game plan to hide our weakness. This, by statements from players and coaches. We kind of did that well the last few years, which averaged 10 wins a season. Last year, teams took advantage of our situation, both Offensively and Defensively (run stopping). Turn-Overs we could afford, but, not the ones that gave points automatically to the opponents and these two problems added up a 4-12 Season.

It is a rare occasion where a team’s QB give up so many INTs for TDs, and all 3 of our QBs contributed last year. We can only hope that our new coaching staff’s new scheme and game planning can help avoid a similar outcome this year.

What are the odds that can happen again?

I like my chances this year…
 
That is why I think Hudson Houck was one of the best acquisitions for the Phins....if he can get Carey into shape and get our line to reduce the sacks and hurries facing Feeley/Gus then I think that is the key to our turning it around. AJ never had time to throw, and neither did Fiedler....as a result we had countless turnovers and we also had numerous 3 and outs which kept our defense on the field all game.....I think the O-Line is the key to our success/failure...hopefully Hawk can turn things around.
 
if i had to guess id say probably 14...

but i think this is the key to this season with lineham, the fact that we will now have hot routes... the problem was when wed get blitzed the QB who was in, was trying to get the ball out quicker but there was no hot route for the recievers so they had to force balls... if we had hot routes t oexploit blitzes, teams would blitz us less which will give more time to the QB and make our oline look oh so much better
 
correct answer is 13... we outrushed St. Loius in our win, arizona in our ****ty bull**** loss, and in our 2nd loss to the bills we gained 1 more yard than them on the ground, haha...
 
arsenal said:
correct answer is 13... we outrushed St. Loius in our win, arizona in our ****ty bull**** loss, and in our 2nd loss to the bills we gained 1 more yard than them on the ground, haha...

I hope you out gain us on the ground in both your losses to us this year. :lol:
 
Roman529 said:
That is why I think Hudson Houck was one of the best acquisitions for the Phins....if he can get Carey into shape and get our line to reduce the sacks and hurries facing Feeley/Gus then I think that is the key to our turning it around. AJ never had time to throw, and neither did Fiedler....as a result we had countless turnovers and we also had numerous 3 and outs which kept our defense on the field all game.....I think the O-Line is the key to our success/failure...hopefully Hawk can turn things around.

Yeah, i agree. Plus, i think the new coaching staff is such an imporvement that it alone should win us 3-4 more games. Throw in the new additions on the DL and LB and 9 wins looks pretty reasonable.
 
NorFlaFin said:
How many games were the Phins outrushed?

As always, I look at rushing attempts, not yards. Miami was extremely fortunate to go 4-12. In the back-to-back wins over New England and Cleveland, the Dolphins were outrushed 38 attempts to 20 by New England and 40 to 25 by Cleveland. If you had shown me those numbers before the games, the odds of us winning both games was literally less than 5%.

It demonstrates our record was legit and we were even worse on the line of scrimmage than most posters here dare to concede. Kudos to Saban for understanding that and stocking up on defensive linemen in particular. In only one 2004 game did Miami have more rushing attempts than its opponent and lose. That was vs. Arizona, a small 31-27 edge in rushing attempts. We were outrushed by 9 or more attempts in an amazing 11 of 16 games, including the last 4 games when supposedly the team was doing so much better. In fact, in each of the final 4 games we were outrushed by 15 or more attempts. That was horrid ignorant football. Bates would have been a failure long term.

Per usual, rushing attempts was an excellent predictor of success, since 13 of the 16 games had the team with most attempts winning.

Here is one of the links I use for stats, college and pro. You can select the team and year and get a quick reference point for the basic stats: http://www.mrnfl.com/data/ByTeam.aspx (Note: it defaults to 2005, which is obviously blank regarding stats but includes the schedule, quite handy. You have to choose a prior year above to view past stats)
 
Roman529 said:
That is why I think Hudson Houck was one of the best acquisitions for the Phins....if he can get Carey into shape and get our line to reduce the sacks and hurries facing Feeley/Gus then I think that is the key to our turning it around. AJ never had time to throw, and neither did Fiedler....as a result we had countless turnovers and we also had numerous 3 and outs which kept our defense on the field all game.....I think the O-Line is the key to our success/failure...hopefully Hawk can turn things around.

Totally agree. There's been a lot said and written about Feeley, but it's almost impossible to judge him with all that went on offensively last year. I think Feeley and McKinley were affected the most by the mess of the coaching staff.
 
Disnardo said:
…Detrimental in the Outcome of 8 Games…

We lost 2 games by 3 points or less (Bengals and Arizona)…

We lost 3 games by 7 points (Bills, Seattle, and Ravens)…

We lost 1 game by 8 points (Jets)…

We lost 2 games by 10 points (Titans, and Bills)…

As we all know, we spotted these teams 7 points a piece, which came by the way of INTs for TDs. A total of 56 points were spotted to these teams and we lost these games by a total of 50 points.

It’s plain and easy to see that the old coaching staff never adjusted our WR routes (blitz reads), blocking scheme and game plan to hide our weakness. This, by statements from players and coaches. We kind of did that well the last few years, which averaged 10 wins a season. Last year, teams took advantage of our situation, both Offensively and Defensively (run stopping). Turn-Overs we could afford, but, not the ones that gave points automatically to the opponents and these two problems added up a 4-12 Season.

It is a rare occasion where a team’s QB give up so many INTs for TDs, and all 3 of our QBs contributed last year. We can only hope that our new coaching staff’s new scheme and game planning can help avoid a similar outcome this year.

What are the odds that can happen again?


I like my chances this year…

Good post, just dont worry about that happening again.
 
Roman529 said:
That is why I think Hudson Houck was one of the best acquisitions for the Phins....if he can get Carey into shape and get our line to reduce the sacks and hurries facing Feeley/Gus then I think that is the key to our turning it around. AJ never had time to throw, and neither did Fiedler....as a result we had countless turnovers and we also had numerous 3 and outs which kept our defense on the field all game.....I think the O-Line is the key to our success/failure...hopefully Hawk can turn things around.
I believe you are right Roman, IMO I think the success this season will be on the shoulders of Houck himself. IMO he is the 2nd most important acquisition, behind Saban, this year. If his techiniques on the OL can make us average or mediocre, than the gameplan can be, for the most part, successful.

Imaging how good Sammy Morris ran behind that OL, with a 4.0 YD average, for the year. That is an above average year for an RB. I am not praising Morris over Ronnie, I want Ronnie to start. I would compare Morris' year to the one that RW had in 2003, not by carries by avg. yardage gained.

Linehan's gameplan will have a chance to succeed, if the OL does its job.
 
Losman7 said:
I hope you out gain us on the ground in both your losses to us this year. :lol:


Losman7 you got to be our football jester :rofl3: the jills we b lucky to stay in the 2 games they play DAAA FINNSSSSSSSSSSS......:evil:
 
ScrepsMJ said:
The Dolphins could have very easily gone 8-8 last year
Which would have proved buttkiss. I'm glad our fall was short and swift. It's over now and we can only go up from here. Lingering at 8-8, 9-7, 10-6 for years doesn't do much for your draft pool.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
As always, I look at rushing attempts, not yards. Miami was extremely fortunate to go 4-12. In the back-to-back wins over New England and Cleveland, the Dolphins were outrushed 38 attempts to 20 by New England and 40 to 25 by Cleveland. If you had shown me those numbers before the games, the odds of us winning both games was literally less than 5%.

It demonstrates our record was legit and we were even worse on the line of scrimmage than most posters here dare to concede. Kudos to Saban for understanding that and stocking up on defensive linemen in particular. In only one 2004 game did Miami have more rushing attempts than its opponent and lose. That was vs. Arizona, a small 31-27 edge in rushing attempts. We were outrushed by 9 or more attempts in an amazing 11 of 16 games, including the last 4 games when supposedly the team was doing so much better. In fact, in each of the final 4 games we were outrushed by 15 or more attempts. That was horrid ignorant football. Bates would have been a failure long term.

Per usual, rushing attempts was an excellent predictor of success, since 13 of the 16 games had the team with most attempts winning.

Here is one of the links I use for stats, college and pro. You can select the team and year and get a quick reference point for the basic stats: http://www.mrnfl.com/data/ByTeam.aspx (Note: it defaults to 2005, which is obviously blank regarding stats but includes the schedule, quite handy. You have to choose a prior year above to view past stats)
Great post. You really did your homework on this one. I never really thought about our ineptitude last year from that aspect.
 
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