Kyler Murray Declares For Nfl

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  1. j-off-her-doll

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    You could be right. I just don't see him as THAT kind of talent. I'd take Chubb 10/10 over him. I wasn't a big fan of any of Michel, Johnson, or Jones - had them all as Day 3 picks and had Phillip Lindsay rated ahead of all but Michel. Kerryon Johnson has looked good in Detroit, and, in hindsight, I was too low on him, but I'd always rather be too low on a RB than too high on a RB - because of the way the penalties work. If you miss out on a RB, it's no big deal. If you know what you're doing at all, it's easy to find another for relatively cheap. If you draft a RB too high, that's a resource you could have used on a position of greater value and scarcity. Michel was a very bad pick for NE imo. He was fine this year, and he's a good player, but there were stud DB's, Pass Rushers, and OL still on the board.
     
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    I like the player also. But I think it’s the combination of everything he does he does well then anything he does he does at the elite level.

    I don’t want to say jack of many trades master of none cause that implies he doesn’t do anything overly well. Cause he does a lot of things at a plus level. Just nothing at the special clip
     
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    Here’s the thing - his power level is almost elite- he’s damn powerful. So you brace to get crushed or at very least go Mano y Mano right- then the dude uses his well above average feet to dance around you.
    Don’t sleep on this guy fellas. He’s RB1 this draft all day long.
     
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    What I see on this tape is a lot of one speed. Lacks explosive burst. It’s probably the biggest flaw in his game.
     
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    no no no, please no runningbacks. Drake, Ballage, Bolden, Gore is plenty. We need DE's and OG's like crazy. Literally, every pick in this draft should be a DE or OG lol (unless we opt not to pay up for Howard, then CB is actually a priority).
     
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    I went to this thread to find out about Murray. Why are we talking about RBs
     
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    The conversation turned to RB- not for Miami - more in general.
     
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    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...-and-weaknesses-impact-on-the-2019-nfl-draft/

    Breaking down Kyler Murray's strengths and weaknesses, impact on the 2019 NFL Draft
    Examining where Murray thrives, where he needs to improve, and how he'd affect the 2019 quarterback class

     
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    Looks like this is every throw Kyle made against Alabama this season:



    Amazing play at 9:48. Kyle scrambles and heaves the ball over 50 yards into the endzone for a TD.



    As you can see at 10:00 he didn't even plant his feet and still completed a pass down the field accurately and in stride. You can see it up close at 10:09. He really shows his arm strength there.



    After seeing the whole video once, I can say he's definitely as electric as I've heard he is. Very accurate passer with a strong arm. He throws three quarter accurately whether his feet are planted or not. I saw a lot of passes thrown in stride while he was standing in the pocket as well as on the run.

    On the negative side, I didn't see many points on the board in the 1st half. I don't watch college football much, so I'm not sure if that's more of a reflection on Kyle or the personnel. They were facing Alabama, after all. He had some passes batted down. Happens. As long as it's not a big issue, I'd deal with it.

    *takes off amateur scouting hat*
     
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    Good job there.
     
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    I have little bit of an issue with Murray going back to the As. Again it’s a business decision but he has most likely received a RD1 grade. Equates 4 mill- 15-17 mill.
    He is telling the NFL- hey NFL all things being equal, things being $$, I prefer baseball.
    It’s only reason to go back to As to renegotiate.
    So... lets fast forward 2019 NFL Game 10., hes getting his *** kicked.
    Who is the say he doesn’t call As and say hey “How about you cover X $$, I’m playing baseball.”
    The option will always be available.
    Nahh pass.
     
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    So you prefer to play it safe, draft a safe guy like Daniel Jones or someone, or stick with Ryan Tannehill, or bring in a vet like Teddy B. What's that going to get you ? 6- 8 wins, stuck in purgatory ! This guy has the potential to be great, the potential to change the way a whole fan base feels about their team. That does not come around very often. If he's a success he's not going to go back to baseball, hell he's not going back to baseball until he's given it a fair shot. Football is his first love, that's clear and evident, he didn't need to go back to play QB for the sooners last year, he had already signed his baseball contract and had the money. But he insisted on doing it, why ?

    He's not going to give it half a season an jump ship ffs, he'll have things in his contract to protect the team against that. If it's still not working after year 2 then maybe, but at that point, if it's not working then it's likely you've got a horrible record so you are in a strong position to draft the next guy. Sitting on or hands not taking chances is why we are in the mess we are right now.
     
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    So have we had any official word yet, today's the deadline ?
     
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    Not at all.
    RT17 is gone.
    Haskins will be too expensive to move for.
    I’m building lines and QB 2020.
    I’m not sure what his 1st love is. It does seem there is chance that money will be greatest motivation.
     
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    As much as I like him until he rescinds the 15 mil demand and announces he will not pursuit baseball I wouldn’t draft him before day 3. They can build the lines and draft a QB in 2020.
     

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