Yeah, this is the guy you want leading the franchise
Here's a transcript of a radio interview Greg Cosell recently did about Kyler Murray.
Host: "Greg, I know you have watched at least EIGHT GAMES of Kyler Murray so far..."
Greg Cosell: "I have."
Host: "Initial takeaways and observations as I know you've looked at Kyler Murray as a quarterback?"
Greg Cosell: "You know, I really liked Kyler Murray (chuckling). And, I know that- the bottom line is this: there'll be people who say he lacks the desired height/weight profile for the position, and if you feel that way, I get it. He's probably going to be under 5-10, and he's not bulky like, let's say, a Russell Wilson is.
But, to me, I thought he was a better thrower than Russell Wilson, watching him, I thought he was more dynamically athletic, ...
I think you're going to run into a situation with him, Johnathan, where he's an exception because of his height, and some coaches will see a 'too short' quarterback, and some coaches will see a prototype for the changing nature of the NFL.
I really liked him on film, because at the end of the day, he's an excellent thrower. And I think that is the thing that leads me to believe that he can be a quality NFL starter.
Host: "How much have you changed your mindset on the profile- the prototypical quarterback look over the years when you've been doing this process, now?"
Greg Cosell: "Quite a bit and I think that's more a function of the NFL game than it is of Kyler Murray, let's say. Because I think you see in the NFL game now, you see much quicker throws. If you look at the statistics that indicate throws based on yardage from the line of scrimmage, each year it seems to get less, and less, and less. There's more quick game, the ball gets out. There's more backfield actions, you present run game elements from the quarterback. Even if you don't use them, they're presented by the nature of the way you play offense.
And I think Murray- look, people are gonna say, he'll get broken in half. You know when he ran in college he got down, he didn't take shots. I know it's a different animal in the NFL, but...
...I just really like the way he threw the football, and that to me is what leads me to say that I really like him as a prospect.
Host: "I remember vividly a year ago Greg, you were talking about Baker Mayfield, and you said you were amazed at how many on-schedule, in-system throws he was making, because I think you turned on the tape almost expecting some freelancing-"
Greg Cosell: (agreeing) "Well that was the perception I had, yeah, yeah, yeah."
Host: "Do you see some of that with Kyler Murray, also? The percentage- comparing him to the previous Oklahoma quarterback, were you seeing a lot of throws that were within the structure of that offense, that were more scheduled than you thought?"
Greg Cosell: "Yes. For sure.
Although, one of the negatives I did have, and in some ways this is just like Russell Wilson as well, Murray will always leave some throws on the field, due to his height, and, at times, premature movement where he just feels that he has to get out of there. And that might be a function of, he can't see it, it doesn't show right away- Now, there's a balance there, Chad, because guys can then run for like 12 yards and a 1st down, and then, what do you say?
I remember asking a Seattle coach about that with Russell Wilson, ya know, what happens when he clearly misses a throw, by not throwing it, but then runs for 12 yards?
They say, 'Nice play, Russell'.
You know, so, I mean, there's a balance there."
Host: "There certainly is. And I mean, Greg you're right, there will be a team, two, three, that love the guy (Cosell: "Right. That's all it takes."), and they'll take him in the first round."
Greg Cosell: "And then the others, they'll just say hey he's 5-9 and three-quarters, whatever he is, and say, 'Can't do it he's too short'."
Host: "The height does get to me a little bit though (Cosell: "No question") to be honest. 5-9. I'm thinkin if he measures 5-9, what that would do to me as a General Manager if I were making that pick. Is Russell Wilson 6 foot?"
Greg Cosell: "No, Russell Wilson is under 5-11. Yeah."
Host: "Is he really?? Wow. Cuz you know that is the comp, height-wise. How tall was Doug Flutie?"
Greg Cosell: "5-9'ish. And who's to say if Doug Flutie played today with the, sort of the way people think about offense differently from the 80's, when the prototype was the 6-4, 225 lbs pocket quarterback, P.K. you remember all that, yeah, yeah. It's a long time ago.
Paul Kuharskey: "He probably falls asleep some night thinking about that, 'if I played today...' "
Greg Cosell: "Yeah!"
Accuracy – Generally accurate, but ball placement and location still need work. Can force his receivers into adjustments on outside the number throws at times, rather than leading them to YAC. Pretty clean short-intermediate as a passer. Can put a little too much air on his deep ball at times, forcing receiver to slow up for the ball.
Decision-Making – Does he not see the field well or does he not care, instead opting to rely on his arm and dumb luck? Either way, Murray has to become a better decision maker in the NFL. Got away with a lot of decisions in the Big 12 that he wouldn’t have against better competition. Alabama flubbed a couple of interception opportunities. Not above frustration throws into coverage. While he has reckless moments, not a snap-to-snap issue and generally remains calm in a clean pocket to make the proper decision.
Mental Processing – Does not throw with anticipation very often, which can lead to a lot of balls in expiring windows. Flashes of progression work are encouraging for a first year starter, but can linger on his first read and doesn’t really have the awareness to look off safeties yet. Holds the ball for a long time and he can get away with it at Oklahoma because of his OL and zero opposing pass rush…things will need to speed up in the NFL.
Velocity/Arm Strength – Can drive the ball into tight windows with excellent velocity. Absolute whip to make high degree of difficulty throws. Can throw the ball for distance as well as any quarterback in the class. Excellent ability to vary touch and velocity as needed, just has to learn when to do each. Floats the ball at times when he should zip it. Great control over how much he’s putting on the ball as a vertical passer.
Pocket Presence – Typically does not see ghosts in the pocket, but at the first sign of pressure he’s often bailing. Has passed up open receivers to get out of the pocket and pick up what he can with his legs, sometimes wisely so. Opts for Plan B a little too quickly, will be harder to make that work consistently in the NFL. When he steps up, it’s almost always to run and not throw. So few instances of seeing him under pressures that it is hard to feel certain of any assessment of him in this area.
Mechanics – Mechanics are interesting. Doesn’t always have the proper footwork or follow through with his trail leg, yet still has the arm to hit near-hash and forward-facing targets. When he was forced to open to the sideline on the far hash, often threw so hard that he fell off his platform and lost accuracy/velocity. More consistent feet would aid him a lot. Release has moments of perfection, and others from more awkward-looking arm angles, but he makes that part work well.
Improvisation – Capable of achieving a good result despite a bad process due to his legs and ability to extend plays off platform. Can throw accurately from off platform and has the arm to make it work from a compromised base. Scrambling ability and burst as a runner are incredibly rare at the position. Elite athlete. Too reliant on this ability at times, when he could play more within structure.
Leadership/Work Ethic – Described as a leader by example by teammates. Not as vocal as Baker Mayfield was and not necessarily an alpha personality, which NFL teams will look into, but I don’t care about. Work ethic and competitive drive are obvious. Lingering questions about baseball will surround him for the foreseeable future.
Poise – Was absolutely rattled and skittish to begin the game against Alabama, settled in a little bit late in the game. That was by FAR the best defensive test he faced all year, on big stages in the Big 12 he seemed unfazed. Never faced copious amounts of pressure until Alabama.
Athleticism/Size – Unprecedented small stature in the modern era of football for a quarterback. Not only is he extremely short for the position, it would be an upset if he topped 200 pounds. Only three fumbles all of last season, which should stave off the hand size sticklers. Absolutely elite athlete who might be the fastest quarterback in the NFL, and certainly the most explosive in his first three steps.
BEST TRAIT – Athleticism/Arm Strength
WORST TRAIT – Decision-Making
RED FLAGS – None
What a wild ride it has been, but here we are. Kyler Murray is my QB1 in the abysmal 2019 quarterback class. No, Murray won’t have a first round grade from me, but he is a more exciting prospect than Dwayne Haskins with an admittedly lower floor. Murray’s arm talent and athleticism allow him to achieve good results even with a flawed and sometimes unsustainable process, revealing flashes of what could be if he becomes more adept from the neck up.
Right now Murray is a raw talent with elite athleticism and a nice arm, but playing quarterback takes a lot more than that. His burst and movement skills are jaw-dropping and will save him for awhile, but eventually he will need to develop the nuances of his game and perfect his mechanics, which will require a quarterback that is truly bought in to his growth and developmental as a football player.
If Murray is still flirting with a commitment to the game of baseball, his transition to the NFL may not work. It will be essential for teams to discover how invested he is in becoming a great quarterback, as well as vetting how his size and run-heavy playing style will limit his availability in the NFL. Murray’s evaluation and draft slot will be one of the most fascinating results of the 2019 draft. God help the teams in desperate need of a quarterback this year.
Well said..fully agree on both points..Murray is special folks. I simply wish he was more committed to football at the moment, instead of bouncing around between baseball and football. He has time to commit but I need him fully committed to football
Bad evaluations and bad evaluation processes from TDN imo. You should post the links, though. Worth noting that the guy who said he won't have a 1st on Murray said that Roseb was easily his QB1 last year, which speaks to his inability to look for the right things, see the right things, or some combination.