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Kyler Murray: The Answer To Miami's Greatest Deficiencies

phins_4_ever said:
Brees is 6' and 210lbs
Mayfield is 6'1" 215lbs
Murray is 5'9"/5'10" 195lbs

I can see a lot of passes being blocked on an NFL level.
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Womp that's not a good enough excuse bro. Tannehill is 6'4 and I swear I've seen games where his passes have been batted down atleast 3 times a game...dont come back saying it was the o line either. Because same could be said for smaller QBs. I hate these kinds of debates because no one really knows but they talk like they do.
 
DPhinz_DPhinz said:
Did Alabama swat his passes down to the point where he didn't dominate the second half?

Russell Wilson is 5'11...either 2 inches taller than Murray, or the same height. How many times has JJ Watt (The Big Baddie) swat his pass down?

I just watched two of Andrew Luck's passes get swatted down...is he too short?
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College and the NFL are different. You can't make that comparison. If you could, all players skill sets and sizes would transfer over. But they don't.

And, yes, there's a big difference between 5'11" and 5'9" -- especially when it's already on the far low end of the spectrum. In terms of historical success, there's even a big difference between 5'11 and 6'1 too.

Russell Wilson is an outlier. And he has an over-the-top throwing motion that places his release point (typically) similar to that of a taller QB. There's a reason why there aren't more like him. Even if Murray developed the same motion as Wilson, he's still giving up a few inches on his release (I'm sure Wilson has a larger wingspan too).

Again, I'm not saying this completely excludes Murray. But it does lend support that the odds aren't great. Which is why Russell Wilson wasn't drafted with a 1st round pick either. I'd be ok with taking a chance on Murray, but not with a 1st round selection. The risk is too great IMO. But I say that full well knowing that Murray will likely go in the 1st -- to somebody.
 
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napsndreds said:
Womp that's not a good enough excuse bro. Tannehill is 6'4 and I swear I've seen games where his passes have been batted down atleast 3 times a game...dont come back saying it was the o line either. Because same could be said for smaller QBs. I hate these kinds of debates because no one really knows but they talk like they do.
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thats not really the best argument. if tanny is 6' 4 and his balls are batted down regularly you would want someone taller not shorter.

X isnt getting paid nobody is getting paid until we win a playoff game.
he also got burned quite a few times this season too.
 
Dolphinitis said:
thats not really the best argument. if tanny is 6' 4 and his balls are batted down regularly you would want someone taller not shorter.

X isnt getting paid nobody is getting paid until we win a playoff game.
he also got burned quite a few times this season too.
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X isnt getting paid till we make the playoffs? LOL ok

Every corner back gets burned... EVERY SINGLE ONE...
 
Danny68 said:
Oddly we seen Osweiler get balls batted down and that dude is like 7 ft tall!
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doesnt bode well for Murray.

x is not getting paid 15 million you all should just forget about it.
 
A run first quarterback will never win in the nfl on a consistent basis. The game is still won in the pocket and in the trenches. These hyper athletic guys are hard to gauge because they’re that much more athletix that a majority of the teams they play.

Y’all banging the table for kyler, did you say the same about Tebow?
 
Dsteve said:
A run first quarterback will never win in the nfl on a consistent basis. The game is still won in the pocket and in the trenches. These hyper athletic guys are hard to gauge because they’re that much more athletix that a majority of the teams they play.

Y’all banging the table for kyler, did you say the same about Tebow?
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Kyler isn't run first. Not even close
 
One thing that somewhat lessens the blow of his small stature is he has a SUPER quick release.

He seems to have that thing called “pocket presence” as well that we all as Dolphins fans have forgotten about in the last 7-8 years.
 
Dsteve said:
A run first quarterback will never win in the nfl on a consistent basis. The game is still won in the pocket and in the trenches. These hyper athletic guys are hard to gauge because they’re that much more athletix that a majority of the teams they play.

Y’all banging the table for kyler, did you say the same about Tebow?
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exactly. Lock from Mo is the way to go, and if in two years he fails then we go for the kid
from Clemson. we need passing qb. PASSING
 
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