I was gonna mention Flutie as another outlier, but since his success was marginal and not all that long -- I didn't feel it really fit. That said, you make a lot of good points. I can't in any way say that you're wrong. I just remain skeptical -- despite really liking Kyler Murray. Always have. I guess that's why these GM's have the job that they do making these type of high pressure, franchise changing decisions. It's not easy. I've frequented this site for many years now and I've always respected your analysis and opinion, CK. If you are a believer in the risk-reward of selecting Murray in the 1st round, that says something to me.