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Lenny P article on Whittacker

He was a Packer and all my roomates are Packer fans and they said him leaving Green Bay didnt come fast enough...so he probally adds some emergency Depth...
 
He's nothing more than a castaway OG. The chances of this guy ending up being any better than Anderson are slim. This time of year, any player that's not under contract, is usually worthless to begin with....

I hope he proves to be an upgrade, but let's try and stay logical here. If he were any good, he probably wouldn't be on the market....

PHINZ RULE!!!!
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
He's nothing more than a castaway OG. The chances of this guy ending up being any better than Anderson are slim. This time of year, any player that's not under contract, is usually worthless to begin with....

I hope he proves to be an upgrade, but let's try and stay logical here. If he were any good, he probably wouldn't be on the market....

PHINZ RULE!!!!
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He's gonna be awesome just like kendall jacox
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
He's nothing more than a castaway OG. The chances of this guy ending up being any better than Anderson are slim. This time of year, any player that's not under contract, is usually worthless to begin with....

I hope he proves to be an upgrade, but let's try and stay logical here. If he were any good, he probably wouldn't be on the market....

PHINZ RULE!!!!
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You do realize that the only reason the Packers let him go is because they changed the style of their offensive line, right? He'll fit right in here.
 
I really don't understand our repeated additions of these fat, slow guys. I know Houck likes big lineman going back to his days in Dallas, but it just seems to me that with the speed of d-lineman and linebackers these days, that these guys can no longer cut it. Yeah, it's nice to have a strong guy up there, but if he's too slow to even get his hands on the guy he's trying to block, then the strength advantage really is useless, a la Shelton and Bennie Anderson.
 
Bradical said:
I really don't understand our repeated additions of these fat, slow guys. I know Houck likes big lineman going back to his days in Dallas, but it just seems to me that with the speed of d-lineman and linebackers these days, that these guys can no longer cut it. Yeah, it's nice to have a strong guy up there, but if he's too slow to even get his hands on the guy he's trying to block, then the strength advantage really is useless, a la Shelton and Bennie Anderson.
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I think Houck believes if a guy has the right footwork and technique you don't have to be super fast. He likes the big physical offensive lineman.

If you want a big pile mover that's fast better be willing to spend a first round pick or $$$.
 
Louis Oliver said:
I think Houck believes if a guy has the right footwork and technique you don't have to be super fast. He likes the big physical offensive lineman.

If you want a big pile mover that's fast better be willing to spend a first round pick or $$$.
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Yeah, I get that, and Houck is more qualified than me to determine this, but it seems like the idea of supersized lineman may be becoming outdated. A lot of teams seem to be moving away from this after seeing the success of smaller, quicker lines in Atlanta or Denver, for example. And, while I'm not opposed to spending a top pick on physically gifted lineman, it is possible to assemble a quality line of the quicker guys without blowing your entire cap on it, again look at the guys in Atlanta or Denver.

My other problem with all these big guys is I get the sense that b/c they are so wide and slow, that unless they get a huge push, their huge fat as*es are clogging the running lanes. They sometimes are, in essence, forming a wall that is as inpenetrable for a runner as it is for a defensive player.
 
Desides said:
You do realize that the only reason the Packers let him go is because they changed the style of their offensive line, right? He'll fit right in here.
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Yeah, I'm sure he'll fit in with the other misfits on the line.. Just fine.
 
Lets give the guy maybe a tiny chance before saying he sucks.
 
Whitticker seems like a decent prospect. From what I've read, he looked like a solid prospect who hurts his knee his senior season which dropped him into the 7th round, and he performed decently in Green Bay prior to being cut when they switched schemes.

I'm skeptical of what that fatbody Len P says, considering he seems to be willing to pimp anyone as long as he knows the agent, and I wouldnt be shocked if Whittickers agent was one of his people.

Bradical said:
Yeah, I get that, and Houck is more qualified than me to determine this, but it seems like the idea of supersized lineman may be becoming outdated. A lot of teams seem to be moving away from this after seeing the success of smaller, quicker lines in Atlanta or Denver, for example. And, while I'm not opposed to spending a top pick on physically gifted lineman, it is possible to assemble a quality line of the quicker guys without blowing your entire cap on it, again look at the guys in Atlanta or Denver.

My other problem with all these big guys is I get the sense that b/c they are so wide and slow, that unless they get a huge push, their huge fat as*es are clogging the running lanes. They sometimes are, in essence, forming a wall that is as inpenetrable for a runner as it is for a defensive player.
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There is no specific trend in offensive linemen that I've seen besides a long term trend of size increase. 15 years ago, there were still 255 pound Centers.

There are Pro's and Con's to both styles of O-line. Where bigger, stronger O-linemen might have problems with quicker D-linemen, the smaller linemen can get abused by 2-gap linemen.

Look at the Denver game last season, for example. Keith Traylor absolutely dominated the Broncos O-line. He was a bull in a china shop vs. those 285 pound interior linemen.

David Bowens said:
'I've known `Truck' for seven years, and he hasn't played any younger since I've known him than he did [against Denver],'' said Dolphins defensive lineman David Bowens, who played with Traylor in Denver as a rookie in 1999. ``On the goal-line [stand], he took out the whole left side of the line on one play.''

Bowens then described how Traylor took Denver center Tom Nalen, who is one of the best in the game, and tossed Nalen into the right guard. The guard then fell on the right tackle, effectively taking out three blockers at one time.

''And he did all of that 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage,'' Bowens said.
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Will Whittecker is a good addition. I actually hung out with him and drove him to training camp in Green Bay last year. He is a cool guy too!!! I think he will add nice depth if any thing to our Oline. Here is a pic of him with me and my buddy!!!!
 
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