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Hey everyone, quick couple of questions. When Howard was asked about the mood in the locker room yesterday, he said it was like a funeral. I know we have one of the youngest rosters in the NFL, but you would think a veteran presence would stand up and rally the troops. I know it’s early in the season and maybe it’s too early to do that, but is it coaching, lack of effort? The whole offense as a whole just seems out of sync. Thoughts?
 
Coaching is the #1 culprit offensively. Mainly play calling and offensive line coaching.

Not only does the line look confused against basic looks, the play callers are doing nothing to try and mitigate our weakness.

Its like they keep running the sane plays and going "WE JUST NEED TO EXECUTE BETTER" when tge reality is we don't have the line talent to execute the plays AND the OC is basically making Tua a statue in the pocket always dropping back to the exact same spot.

The absolute LAST thing you way to do with a bad line is have your QB standing in the sane place, taking the same drop EVERY PLAY. You're allowing the defense to tee off further.
 
Howard's job is playing. Not every guy is Ray Lewis. But just because a guy is pretty disappointed that the team got beat badly doesn't mean they won't get refocused or use it as motivation. I mean, would you be happier if he wasn't disappointed the team got beat 35-0?

At any rate Flores is gonna have to do a lot to escape the sense of failure that he himself created by sandbagging last year's season with a QB he decided to start before he was ready.
 
At any rate Flores is gonna have to do a lot to escape the sense of failure that he himself created by sandbagging last year's season with a QB he decided to start before he was ready.

It's a good thing he did. Now we know early where we are at.
 
Only if you don't understand that a QB who flops on a team that has bad coaching, line, and weapons wasn't necessarily pre-destined to do so.

Im not a believer in that. Im a believer in rookie contracts. Either they get it done on rookie contract or they do not. He was drafted 5 overall, he is paid, he had a full offseason, he needs to perform, on rookie contract.
 
Its been like a funeral for the fanbase too...awful loss. I think we all expect the team to perform like professionals who do this for a living and when they phone it in and get shacked like a JV team its a let down to us all.
Lets bury this game and hope it never resurrects again in our lifetime.
 
Hey everyone, quick couple of questions. When Howard was asked about the mood in the locker room yesterday, he said it was like a funeral. I know we have one of the youngest rosters in the NFL, but you would think a veteran presence would stand up and rally the troops. I know it’s early in the season and maybe it’s too early to do that, but is it coaching, lack of effort? The whole offense as a whole just seems out of sync. Thoughts?

Teams that become great learn to live with "short term" adversity.

I hope and expect this to be just a bump (all be it a very big bump) on the road to the develop a team with the character to overcome adversity, both on and off the field of play.
 
Only if you don't understand that a QB who flops on a team that has bad coaching, line, and weapons wasn't necessarily pre-destined to do so.

I agree to a level, but the QB has a lot to do with how defenses approach them as well.
 
Well they did get killed, funeral is appropriate.
 
Hey everyone, quick couple of questions. When Howard was asked about the mood in the locker room yesterday, he said it was like a funeral. I know we have one of the youngest rosters in the NFL, but you would think a veteran presence would stand up and rally the troops. I know it’s early in the season and maybe it’s too early to do that, but is it coaching, lack of effort? The whole offense as a whole just seems out of sync. Thoughts?
The elected Captains should be the leaders who step up. But since none of these Captains played well in the game, perhaps they decided to skip the rally speeches and instead quietly slip out before the players demanded a vote recount.
 
Im not a believer in that. Im a believer in rookie contracts. Either they get it done on rookie contract or they do not. He was drafted 5 overall, he is paid, he had a full offseason, he needs to perform, on rookie contract.
Rookie contracts are the easiest time to get a championship, I agree with that. The thing is, this team's championship window is gonna expire around the time Tua's rookie contract would have regardless. X and Byron Jones are pretty much enabling this team's success, and they'll be too old, too expensive or both.

Yes its important to strategize within the rookie contract, but at no point is your job made easier if the QB you are building around is ruined by starting him too early. In this team's case, the offensive line wasn't ready to provide consistent protection, and coaches should have understood better than anyone how one of the oldest QB's in the league who just happened to not be shy about throwing the ball up with reckless abandon was making that line look farther along than it was. The offensive coordinator whose job it was to set the stage for Tua's success was blindsided by the move to him when the team had actually found its footing under Fitzpatrick. And on top of that, when a QB who dominated the college game not because of some immense physical skill, but because his timing and ball delivery was elite, starts his first game and throws for less than a hundred yards because his timing was abysmal, you know he wasn't ready. But maybe worse than all that was by switching from a veteran who was productive on a team that was on its ascent, Flores set things up for Tua to be heaped with negativity if he couldn't come close to Fitz's production on a team that didn't make the playoffs mostly because the offense couldn't pass muster. It's a pretty bull**** thing to do for a coach to setup a young player to be viewed as THE reason why his team didn't do something.

That's not the way to handle a rookie QB. And ****ing up your second QB of the future prospect in a row is no way to execute a rebuild.
 
I agree to a level, but the QB has a lot to do with how defenses approach them as well.
True, but to apply that logic conversely, the only reason why this offensive line composed of underwhelming rookies/now second year players and 6th lineman caliber guys wasn't getting exploited on the regular before Tua was in there was because there was a 38 year old QB who couldn't just be blitzed every play because he was reckless enough to just throw it up for grabs, and somehow accurate enough when doing so to not throw 7 picks a game and usually limit it to 2. If the staff really expected a rookie from the university of Alabama to come in and play the same way under that pocket duress out of the gate, shame on them.
 
Coaching is the #1 culprit offensively. Mainly play calling and offensive line coaching.

Not only does the line look confused against basic looks, the play callers are doing nothing to try and mitigate our weakness.

Its like they keep running the sane plays and going "WE JUST NEED TO EXECUTE BETTER" when tge reality is we don't have the line talent to execute the plays AND the OC is basically making Tua a statue in the pocket always dropping back to the exact same spot.

The absolute LAST thing you way to do with a bad line is have your QB standing in the sane place, taking the same drop EVERY PLAY. You're allowing the defense to tee off further.

Wow that was an exceptionally rational and well thought out response. Nice job!
 
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