who the hell is James Pennington?
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Montana and Brady needed to start their careers in the right system. Yes, as they become wiley old vets who have seen everything they can play anywhere, but they needed to fit a very narrow window to become what they were. Brady also needed a team that cheats out its ass. The guys on DJs list could have started anywhere under any circumstance and achieved their greatness.
So, in an historical context, you believe Wilson to be a superior QB to Montana and Brady?
A simple yes or no?
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Tannehill had a couple of good seasons that were clearly better on better teams even though the line has been atrocious for many years. Let’s not forget the one magical year that Chad Pennington had.
But I like Fitz, he has character and I like his style of play. Definitely rooting for him.
I think I explained my stance fairly concisely and clearly. I know what you’re trying to do and I’m not playing an internet argument game. You can either debate what I said or not, but I’m not going to be lead into defending a position you want me to make.
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My question was pretty simple, and Wilson was the only QB I took issue with. Wasn't trying to bait you into anything.
I defy you to show me any credible all time QB list that puts him in a class with the all time greats.
You did state your stance clearly. I was just wondering if you cared to back it up with anything tangible.
I guess I see the forum as a place to debate, and exchange views, not just an echo chamber.
My apologies if I offended.....
James Chadwick Pennington. He was an NFL QB from 2000-2010. He was with the New York Jets from 2000-2007 and with the Miami Dolphins from 2008-2010. He is the only player in NFL history to win Comeback Player of the Year twice.
I also need to add Eli Manning to my list of favorites.
I agree with you 100% on Brady and Montana. I disagree 100% on putting Russell Wilson's name anywhere in a "greatest of all-time" discussion (at least thus far in his career...and i don't see that changing betwene now and his retirement). I would also disagree with anybody placing Steve Young anywhere in the top 10. However, we are each entitled to have our own opinions. In the grand scheme of things, these sports discussions have no weight on anything in the world and are really quite unimportant. It's just a fun hobby.
I find it ironic that you talk down on people for placing Fitzpatrick on a pedestal considering you are so high on an oft-injured player who hasn't played a down in the NFL yet.
And, no, I am not among those that places Fotzpatrick on a pedestal. I like what he brings to the team but it is obvious he is a stopgap (and I odn't recall anybody arguing otherwise)..
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Never knew his first name was James
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Had no idea Chad was not his true name.
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He's been the starting QB of some really shitty teams
I think he did play on a very good Rams team his first two years but never started with Warner there
My stance was clearly enough explained that it was "tangible".
I believe Wilson and the other QBs DJ mentioned could start and have similar levels of personal success for virtually any system. I don't believe that for Montana or Brady. Answering yes or no to your question would just turn into a pissing contest about records and team successes, when that isn't what I was talking about.
Brady and Montana had better careers than Wilson, BUT that doesn't mean they are better QBs overall, imo. I also don't much care what other sources say about it.