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Living in Dauntes Inferno

I dont think thats very accurate. I mean Randall Cunnigham left the game and came back and was good for a few years until he left again and that was wayyyy over the supposed 5-6 yr span.
 
I think it's also important to remember that Bill Simmons is about as unbiased in his Daunte critique as a person could be. He is a Patriots apologist and will always have something negative to say about the Phins. (Probably because, like most of our naysayers, he watched for years as our organization dominate his organization. Self-loathing directed at an enemy is a potent force. This also explains any remarks made by any former Bills player.)

As for Daunte, I've been very disappointed about his play. The pass just before halftime last week really hurt. But I'm not ready to just give up on him. Look at what Big Ben did this past Monday. His performance against the Jaguars was worse (which is saying something!) than either of Daunte's games this year. So I'm just going to see if Daunte and Saban show any ability to make the necessary changes over the next few weeks. I'd like to see more deep balls early in games, if for no other reason than to keep the safeties off the line of scrimmage. I'd also like to see Ronnie get more carries. I thought he looked good against Buffalo, limited carries though he had. I'd also like to see us quit blitzing with linebackers for a while. I like what we do when we bring up defensive backfield players, but our 'backer blitz schemes just aren't working. And did I mention that I'd like to see a pass or two each week to McMichael 15-20 yards down the middle of the field?
 
Daunte has never shown an ability to be a winner. Whenever the chips are down and the ball is in his hands he folds like a cheap suit. In 2003, he had 4 straight weeks where we could have tied the game or took the lead in every game. Anybody take a guess at what happened? He threw an interception in every one of them and Minnesota lost to all 4 4-12 teams that year(all the teams with the worst records. I swear Daunte has thrown at least 15 game ending interceptions in his career when his team could have tied or taken the lead. Ill look it up.
 
Vikefan29 said:
Daunte has never shown an ability to be a winner. Whenever the chips are down and the ball is in his hands he folds like a cheap suit. In 2003, he had 4 straight weeks where we could have tied the game or took the lead in every game. Anybody take a guess at what happened? He threw an interception in every one of them and Minnesota lost to all 4 4-12 teams that year(all the teams with the worst records. I swear Daunte has thrown at least 15 game ending interceptions in his career when his team could have tied or taken the lead. Ill look it up.
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that would be scary to look up


Joey Harrington supporter
 
Vikefan29 said:
Daunte has never shown an ability to be a winner. Whenever the chips are down and the ball is in his hands he folds like a cheap suit. In 2003, he had 4 straight weeks where we could have tied the game or took the lead in every game. Anybody take a guess at what happened? He threw an interception in every one of them and Minnesota lost to all 4 4-12 teams that year(all the teams with the worst records. I swear Daunte has thrown at least 15 game ending interceptions in his career when his team could have tied or taken the lead. Ill look it up.
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If you check his split stats over the last 3 yrs on Yahoo:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4659/splits;_ylt=Ag1dFW3ARvy..5mUUHJ32s_.uLYF?year=avg

they look pretty darn good in "Close" and "Late & Close" situations - 37 TDs and 7 Ints + 1 TD Rushing against 3 Fumbles Lost - although a sack almost every 12.7 attempts.

I won't lie, I would rather have had Brees over Culpepper, but I've got to believe he is better than anyone the Dolphins have had in quite awhile and these numbers give me hope. I hope he can get comfortable with his injury recovery, new o-coordinator, and receivers soon and turn it around in the next 2-3 games.
 
daunte doesnt have to be a mobile qb. if the oline gave him time hed be fine as a pocket passer. he just has to adapt to a whole new type of play
 
Like most editorialists, Simmons either accidently or deliberately excludes examples that would refute the notion that mobile QB's are automatically doomed to short careers.

Fran Tarkenton or John Elway, anyone?

Also, isn't the long term average of any player supposed to be only something like 5 years?
 
I kicked things off by standing on a makeshift stage, leaning into the microphone and saying, "My name is Bill, and I'm a recovering Daunte Culpepper owner." Everyone said hello. You could feel the warmth.

Then I told everyone my story: Last season, Daunte destroyed my West Coast fantasy team. Co-owner T-Man and I had taken him in the second round. We were expecting big things. He ended up obliterating our season -- six TDs and 12 INTs in six weeks, followed by Daunte blowing out his knee in 35 places in Week 7 and leaving us for dead. We never recovered. And naturally, we vowed never to take him again.

...


"Here's how bad he was," I told Paul and the crowd. "During the second half, the crowd was chanting, 'Jo-ey! Jo-ey! Jo-ey! Jo-ey!"


"Who's Joey?" Paul asked.


"That would be the Dolphins backup ... Joey Harrington."


There was a quick groan in the Staples Center, followed by a mortified silence, kinda like when a batter gets beaned during a baseball game.

"Oh, yeah," I said. "They were chanting for Joey Harrington. You heard me."

...


One thing's for sure: There are nearly 1,600 players in the National Football League, but it's hard to imagine anyone who's affected more fans than Culpepper. Minnesota fans are delighted he's gone. Miami fans are suddenly terrified that he's there. Gamblers have been burned by him to the point that it should be illegal to throw any Culpepper team into a tease. Everyone who had him in a 2005 fantasy league is still recovering, and everyone who has him or Chambers in 2006 is panicking as we speak. He even helped ruin the promising concept of having bachelor parties on chartered yachts. Add everything up and he's been the single most influential player in the league. Remember the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game? Now we have "One Degree of Daunte Culpepper."


Of course, he could solve every problem by just becoming a good quarterback again. Culpepper's defenders argue that we shouldn't give up on him yet, that he's still getting comfortable with a surgically repaired knee. After last weekend's loss to Buffalo, even Bills linebacker London Fletcher told reporters, "He's not healthy, he's not the same guy I've seen."

And that would be fine ... except it doesn't explain why Culpepper played so poorly last season. Maybe he's not healthy yet, but he's also not the same guy London Fletcher remembers. That guy is long gone. Someday, we're even going to realize it
 
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