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Not one even mentioned martin or seemed to comment in his favor. Interesting.
 
i cant post new threads but anyway i just found a racist tweet from cogs
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All of john Wayne gacys neighbors thought he was a great guy too. An extreme example but you see the point.
 
I would be interested to hear Pouncey and Odrick's reaction to the voicemails. They must have heard similar things considering they were rookies under Incognito and are also both of mixed race like Martin.

It was interesting to hear Channing Crowder's take on all this on QAM. I was surprised that he didn't seem that offended by the "half-n" comment, he actually seemed to be on Incognito's side, even though he acknowledged he went overboard. Crowder was basically saying that Incognito was indeed the lockerroom bully, but in the dumb lugnut kind of way, and that if a player stood up to him, he would leave them alone and then go looking for the next weakest link. He cited an example with Austin Spitler who eventually thumped Incognito after being bullied by him for awhile, and Richie never touched him after that.

The picture is becoming clearer. Richie is a meathead, and his schtick was to bully rookies until they stood up to him or he found another target. But the team seemed to recognize this and just chalked it up to a prankster, "bro" personality, and seemingly liked him as a teammate.

Martin was a different kind of cat, with Ivy-league pedigree and uncomfortable with the dumb jock mentality around him. I can relate to Martin in a sense, as I too hung out with "bro" types on occasion and was never comfortable around them. That being said, Martin approached this in the WORST possible way from a "football brotherhood" perspective. If he was uncomfortable confronting Incognito, he should have dealt with this with Philbin and the staff once he "snapped" in the lunch room. By ditching the place once he finally had enough, and launching napalm over the organization, he violated the unspoken rules of the locker room. For this reason, I don't see any team signing Martin after this fiasco.
 
possible suspect? too me after what we know now its a racist remark.....u dont see it?
 
I generally have a problem with the locker room handling of this situation anyway. As a fan and a trained crisis management trainer. And the former players who have commented seem to have a problem with how this was handled by the veteran leadership of the locker room. I question that leadership right now. The fact all this got to where it is. Those calling it out are former players, coaches like Billick, and gms like Polian. The current leadership on this team in the locker room allowed this to blow up. They let it get out of the locker room. You can blame Philbin, but his eyes in the locker room failed him.
 
niw said:
possible suspect? too me after what we know now its a racist remark.....u dont see it?
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It's not racist even after what we know you are just trying to make it out to be.

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niw said:
possible suspect? too me after what we know now its a racist remark.....u dont see it?
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So if he put a picture of a possible suspect pic of a white guy and said it looked like jake long, is that racist? I think your grasping at staws. The possible suspect in that picture does look like j-martin in a way, if its not him
 
SkapePhin said:
I would be interested to hear Pouncey and Odrick's reaction to the voicemails. They must have heard similar things considering they were rookies under Incognito and are also both of mixed race like Martin.

It was interesting to hear Channing Crowder's take on all this on QAM. I was surprised that he didn't seem that offended by the "half-n" comment, he actually seemed to be on Incognito's side, even though he acknowledged he went overboard. Crowder was basically saying that Incognito was indeed the lockerroom bully, but in the dumb lugnut kind of way, and that if a player stood up to him, he would leave them alone and then go looking for the next weakest link. He cited an example with Austin Spitler who eventually thumped Incognito after being bullied by him for awhile, and Richie never touched him after that.

The picture is becoming clearer. Richie is a meathead, and his schtick was to bully rookies until they stood up to him or he found another target. But the team seemed to recognize this and just chalked it up to a prankster, "bro" personality, and seemingly liked him as a teammate.

Martin was a different kind of cat, with Ivy-league pedigree and uncomfortable with the dumb jock mentality around him. I can relate to Martin in a sense, as I too hung out with "bro" types on occasion and was never comfortable around them. That being said, Martin approached this in the WORST possible way from a "football brotherhood" perspective. If he was uncomfortable confronting Incognito, he should have dealt with this with Philbin and the staff once he "snapped" in the lunch room. By ditching the place once he finally had enough, and launching napalm over the organization, he violated the unspoken rules of the locker room. For this reason, I don't see any team signing Martin after this fiasco.
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Excellent comments......I think that you are 100% correct
 
niw said:
possible suspect? too me after what we know now its a racist remark.....u dont see it?
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wow dude, its things like this that got the whole rascist thing blown way outta proportion. np, i dont see it cuz its not there... that is a really big reach dude
 
maybe so but there happens to be irrefutable evidence of him saying the N word in a racist manner,putting that into perspective and everything is so fresh in our minds and u read that caption of that pic,it makes u wonder COULD it have been racist?absolutely
 
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