Phinfan31
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To fire Adam Gase, or to NOT fire Adam Gase...that is the question.
Tell me...who do you want to replace him? Quit thinking like a bunch of women...I'm tired of seeing everyone make comments purely driven by emotion. No "Anyone but Gase" comments here please. Forget Gase for this thread. Lets talk about the others.
Personally, I don't see any logic in cleaning house and starting over with any of these guys. This is why: to start over means a total overhaul. Its not like firing a DC...if you fire a head coach you are looking at all new coaches, new philosophies, new players, new culture, etc. and it takes years. That means the candidate needs to be worth committing several years to...and of this bunch...I'm just not sold. But I'm open to listening.
Top 5 options as far as I'm concerned:
* Jim Harbaugh?
Everyone has always been wanting Jim Harbaugh...thats like the pipedream for you guys isn't it? Well after that bowl loss, the Michigan fans are begging an NFL team to take him away. Wanna know why....he is 1-9 against top 10 opponents, 2-7 in rivalry games, and 1-3 in bowl games. He is arrogant and stubborn AF. So if we got him...do we get the 49ers Harbaugh or the Michigan Harbaugh? Its a risk isn't it?
* John Harbaugh?
The Ravens have had a significantly better roster than us for the past decade. He has always had a top defense and O-Line...and he never made those personnel decisions. So he is a good team "manager"...but is that worth spending multiple draft picks? What evidence do we have that he can improve our team?
* Rex Ryan?
People talk about wanting a tough/nasty team...ok I'm all for that. This guy was dominating with the Jets initially, but he also had INCREDIBLE talent like he did in Baltimore. Then it all went to ****. He completely destroyed Buffalo and their top-5 defense and set them back multiple years. No thank you. As a DC...yes.
* Vic Fangio?
One of the best DC's in the NFL in the last decade. 49ers under Harbaugh and the recent Bears are fine examples of what this guy could do to our defense...but are we really wanting to roll the dice with another first timer HC?
* Chuck Pagano?
Really the only other semi-legitimate option out there. He had a lot of success at first, but he also had Andrew Luck. People blame the GM for all of Indy's woes...so maybe he is worth a look. But I wouldn't argue that a re-set with him is worth firing Gase.
Now the garbage...
Jim Caldwell? No thank you. This guy has always been a failure.
Mike McCarthy? The guy that has always been carried by Aaron Rodgers for years?
Josh McDaniels? I'd hope no one would ever consider a NE Patriot. He was a failure in Denver and hes just a piece of **** human being - remember what he did to Indy last year?
Todd Bowles? This guy never deserved a head coaching job to begin with. He was a secondary coach and had one season as a DC with elite talent in Arizona. He is the definition of a subordinate. I'd definitely consider him as a DC but that is IT.
Eric Bienemy? I'm pretty sure KC is what they are because of Reid and Mahomes...not this guy.
Matt Eberflus? Indy's defense was pretty good...but he barely even has DC experience. Definitely not.
Brian Flores? The guy who took over for Matt Patricia? Look how Patricia has turned out for the Lions...or basically any other NE subordinate coach in history.
Matt Lefluer? The architect behind the god awful Tennessee Titans offense? This is getting really bad now...
Zac Taylor? Our old QB coach for Ryan Tannehill....lmao. I don't think so.
Raise from the dead options:
* Bill Cowher? We've been talking about him for over a decade...why not throw his ass into the pile? I love his smashmouth style...but you gotta remember, just like Gruden...he had limited success and a lot of mediocre seasons.
* Nick Saban? IDGAF what ya'll say....I'd take him back in a heartbeat. He is one of the best coaches of all-time - period. When he came to the NFL he presented a legitimate challenge to Belichek immediately. In his last season we stomped an undefeated Bears team that went on to the superbowl and we shutout the Patriots with Joey ****ing Harrington playing QB. He made grown men cry. He'd be reunited with Minkah...and he would easily attract the best coaches in the football world.
He would be the undisputed best option of this list if it were based in reality and not fantasy.
I want to hear convincing arguments for anyone up above. If I missed any good candidates then please add others. Why would any of these guys (or those you add) be worth scratching everything we've done the past few years and starting over?
Tell me...who do you want to replace him? Quit thinking like a bunch of women...I'm tired of seeing everyone make comments purely driven by emotion. No "Anyone but Gase" comments here please. Forget Gase for this thread. Lets talk about the others.
Personally, I don't see any logic in cleaning house and starting over with any of these guys. This is why: to start over means a total overhaul. Its not like firing a DC...if you fire a head coach you are looking at all new coaches, new philosophies, new players, new culture, etc. and it takes years. That means the candidate needs to be worth committing several years to...and of this bunch...I'm just not sold. But I'm open to listening.
Top 5 options as far as I'm concerned:
* Jim Harbaugh?
Everyone has always been wanting Jim Harbaugh...thats like the pipedream for you guys isn't it? Well after that bowl loss, the Michigan fans are begging an NFL team to take him away. Wanna know why....he is 1-9 against top 10 opponents, 2-7 in rivalry games, and 1-3 in bowl games. He is arrogant and stubborn AF. So if we got him...do we get the 49ers Harbaugh or the Michigan Harbaugh? Its a risk isn't it?
* John Harbaugh?
The Ravens have had a significantly better roster than us for the past decade. He has always had a top defense and O-Line...and he never made those personnel decisions. So he is a good team "manager"...but is that worth spending multiple draft picks? What evidence do we have that he can improve our team?
* Rex Ryan?
People talk about wanting a tough/nasty team...ok I'm all for that. This guy was dominating with the Jets initially, but he also had INCREDIBLE talent like he did in Baltimore. Then it all went to ****. He completely destroyed Buffalo and their top-5 defense and set them back multiple years. No thank you. As a DC...yes.
* Vic Fangio?
One of the best DC's in the NFL in the last decade. 49ers under Harbaugh and the recent Bears are fine examples of what this guy could do to our defense...but are we really wanting to roll the dice with another first timer HC?
* Chuck Pagano?
Really the only other semi-legitimate option out there. He had a lot of success at first, but he also had Andrew Luck. People blame the GM for all of Indy's woes...so maybe he is worth a look. But I wouldn't argue that a re-set with him is worth firing Gase.
Now the garbage...
Jim Caldwell? No thank you. This guy has always been a failure.
Mike McCarthy? The guy that has always been carried by Aaron Rodgers for years?
Josh McDaniels? I'd hope no one would ever consider a NE Patriot. He was a failure in Denver and hes just a piece of **** human being - remember what he did to Indy last year?
Todd Bowles? This guy never deserved a head coaching job to begin with. He was a secondary coach and had one season as a DC with elite talent in Arizona. He is the definition of a subordinate. I'd definitely consider him as a DC but that is IT.
Eric Bienemy? I'm pretty sure KC is what they are because of Reid and Mahomes...not this guy.
Matt Eberflus? Indy's defense was pretty good...but he barely even has DC experience. Definitely not.
Brian Flores? The guy who took over for Matt Patricia? Look how Patricia has turned out for the Lions...or basically any other NE subordinate coach in history.
Matt Lefluer? The architect behind the god awful Tennessee Titans offense? This is getting really bad now...
Zac Taylor? Our old QB coach for Ryan Tannehill....lmao. I don't think so.
Raise from the dead options:
* Bill Cowher? We've been talking about him for over a decade...why not throw his ass into the pile? I love his smashmouth style...but you gotta remember, just like Gruden...he had limited success and a lot of mediocre seasons.
* Nick Saban? IDGAF what ya'll say....I'd take him back in a heartbeat. He is one of the best coaches of all-time - period. When he came to the NFL he presented a legitimate challenge to Belichek immediately. In his last season we stomped an undefeated Bears team that went on to the superbowl and we shutout the Patriots with Joey ****ing Harrington playing QB. He made grown men cry. He'd be reunited with Minkah...and he would easily attract the best coaches in the football world.
He would be the undisputed best option of this list if it were based in reality and not fantasy.
I want to hear convincing arguments for anyone up above. If I missed any good candidates then please add others. Why would any of these guys (or those you add) be worth scratching everything we've done the past few years and starting over?
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