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Luke Kuechly on Tannehill: "He made some incredible throws"

Im torn man, tanne did do some good things yesterday, but those missed throws to wallace just stick out so bad
 
There are people on this very board who think that 2/4 for 110 yards and a touchdown on bombs of 40+ yards in the air is a bad line.

What can you do about it? There are people who think that his deep throws were the problem yesterday, and not the two bonehead plays he made scrambling to his right. It is what it is.

Half the people on this board don't know a goddamn thing about football and think that throwing deep is like what you do when you pick Michael Vick in Madden and the ball just zips 80 yards through the air instantly.
 
So what else is new. Yes, he made some great throws. He has potential. Everyone keeps saying it. But potential is not tangible. The kid deserves time, but honestly, you can flip a coin as to whether Ryan Tannehill will be our franchise player in a year or two, or whether we'll have drafted another.
 
I was there yesterday and I really concentrated on Thill all day. He is NO problem whatsoever
He connected on his deep balls and Wallace clearly missed the last one. Yes he did under throw one that Wallace still caught but the bottom line all the other QBs in this league make those throws also and their WRs adjust and catch them too, but Thill still got the ball there to put his WR to be able to adjust to the ball.
This kid has no Oline, no TE, yes Clay is a nice player but he scares no one, and he has no running game. Any points put on the board is because of Thill! He also threw a beauty in the end zone that Mathews dropped because he was head butted. Fin fans need to wake up, but then I guess they are too busy playing Madden football.
 
The underthrow criticism is hilarious. Yesterday he delivered an accurate, catchable football 60+ yards in the air, consistently. 3 of 4 tries. That's very good.

On one of those he was running out on a bootleg to his right. As CK says, that is a rare throw. On the miss, he is scrambling up in the pocket to avoid pressure and 'lets it rip.' Overthrown by a yard or two. On the last play of the game, he delivers the ball to about the opposing 3 yard line from his own 33 when he is about to take a hit so hard he can't even step into the throw. The ball hits Mike Wallace in the hands. That's an impressive play.

It's like we are living in a fantasy land where we choose to rip on the guy for one aspect of his game that was actually good yesterday, and then we totally ignore the interception and the terrible almost interception. Those plays were awful. They were really bad. And nobody is bringing them up except for me, the homer.
 
He's inconsistent. Inconsistency is unreliability. Unreliability is below average. Below average is ineffective. Ineffective means loss. Loss means ...

But don't fret ... I'm sure he'll get another year. At which time we'll have a much clearer picture.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
The underthrow criticism is hilarious. Yesterday he delivered an accurate, catchable football 60+ yards in the air, consistently. 3 of 4 tries. That's very good.

On one of those he was running out on a bootleg to his right. As CK says, that is a rare throw. On the miss, he is scrambling up in the pocket to avoid pressure and 'lets it rip.' Overthrown by a yard or two. On the last play of the game, he delivers the ball to about the opposing 3 yard line from his own 33 when he is about to take a hit so hard he can't even step into the throw. The ball hits Mike Wallace in the hands. That's an impressive play.

It's like we are living in a fantasy land where we choose to rip on the guy for one aspect of his game that was actually good yesterday, and then we totally ignore the interception and the terrible almost interception. Those plays were awful. They were really bad. And nobody is bringing them up except for me, the homer.
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Not to make excuses, but on the overthrow did it look to anyone else like Wallace slowed down significantly before speeding up again to catch the ball? That was my initial reaction...
 
moving perhaps slightly off subject Luke Kuechly certainly reminded me of a young Brian Urlacher - good player in the making.
 
Luke Kuechly is not a good player in the making. He is a great player. Right now.

SkapePhin said:
Not to make excuses, but on the overthrow did it look to anyone else like Wallace slowed down significantly before speeding up again to catch the ball? That was my initial reaction...
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Careful, you're treading into "not every incompletion is a bad throw" or "maybe there were other factors involved in the play" or "it was a low percentage play" territory now and that makes you a homer, my friend.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
The underthrow criticism is hilarious. Yesterday he delivered an accurate, catchable football 60+ yards in the air, consistently. 3 of 4 tries. That's very good.

On one of those he was running out on a bootleg to his right. As CK says, that is a rare throw. On the miss, he is scrambling up in the pocket to avoid pressure and 'lets it rip.' Overthrown by a yard or two. On the last play of the game, he delivers the ball to about the opposing 3 yard line from his own 33 when he is about to take a hit so hard he can't even step into the throw. The ball hits Mike Wallace in the hands. That's an impressive play.

It's like we are living in a fantasy land where we choose to rip on the guy for one aspect of his game that was actually good yesterday, and then we totally ignore the interception and the terrible almost interception. Those plays were awful. They were really bad. And nobody is bringing them up except for me, the homer.
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Actually, those are the throws, plus the final long ball to the wrong shoulder that I'm not happy with. Plus not throwing the ball away on the final play when he still had time on the clock and was only 3rd down.

The overthrow I can live with because by now I'm sure he's heard or come to the realization that overthrowing Wallace normally isn't going to happen. It's those throws and a couple of other ones that I feel he fell short at, plus a couple of reads.
 
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joeharley666 said:
I was there yesterday and I really concentrated on Thill all day. He is NO problem whatsoever
He connected on his deep balls and Wallace clearly missed the last one. Yes he did under throw one that Wallace still caught but the bottom line all the other QBs in this league make those throws also and their WRs adjust and catch them too, but Thill still got the ball there to put his WR to be able to adjust to the ball.
This kid has no Oline, no TE, yes Clay is a nice player but he scares no one, and he has no running game. Any points put on the board is because of Thill! He also threw a beauty in the end zone that Mathews dropped because he was head butted. Fin fans need to wake up, but then I guess they are too busy playing Madden football.
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Sure, if we had a great TE and great Running Game, we would be much better. But then, you can probably plug n play ANY QB into that offense. When the offense is lacking in other areas, that's the test of a great QB. Can he compensate? Can he win games for you? Like Cam just did? (And Cam's not even great but he still brought his team back).

Tannehill was off target on several throws, even the ones Wallace caught. After Wallace scord in the first quarter, we should have put the pedal to the metal. Instead, on our next possession, we ran for no yards and Tanny's pass to Rishard Matthews was incomplete, and we punted. On the next one after that, Wallace came up with another huge reception, and we got down to the 20 yard line. Then instead of scoring a TD, the drive died because of yet another incompleted pass to Matthews and more crappy run yardage. Later on, we were down at the 5 yard line, and settled for a FG, because again, we couldn't complete a pass.

What in that did you see was not at least partially, Ryan Tannehill's fault? He throws the passes, makes the reads. He chooses a run or pass play on every down.

We're not watching Madden, we're watching the game!
 
NCFINFAN13 said:
Actually, those are the throws, plus the final long ball to the wrong shoulder that I'm not happy with. Plus not throwing the ball away on the final play when he still had time on the clock and was only 3rd down.
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Wallace was at the right hashmark when the ball was thrown on that last play, and it was thrown to the left hashmark where only Wallace and the guy in coverage could get in on the play. Wallace turned himself around several times while the ball was in the air. You want to blame the QB for that, go ahead.
 
Anther thing that is frustrating is that these receivers get absolutely NO YAC... Every other team I see has receivers making ridiculous YAC. Some of these are on Tannehill like the 1st Wallace under throw, but most seem to be due to play design or failure of the receiver to shrug any tackles. It is very frustrating to watch.
 
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