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Madison, Surtain vs X, Jones

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X got another one today. Its highlight wheel material.
Should we start the conversation about X and Jones is the best cb tandem in dolphins history? Even surpassed Madison, Surtain?

I would say so given how NFL today handcuffs defenders.
 
Mad/Surtain...Jones is the weak link here. Both also made lots of INTs...Isn't that deflection like Jones 2?3? of his career?
 
I’m going to go X and Byron. This is the best I’ve ever seen corners play in Miami. Madison and Surtain were great but let’s not forget they had those two pretty good guys Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas creating havoc. While Miami’s pass rush has overachieved they are no where close to those early 2000’s front 7’s that helped out Madison and surtain
 
MARINO1384 said:
I’m going to go X and Byron. This is the best I’ve ever seen corners play in Miami. Madison and Surtain were great but let’s not forget they had those two pretty good guys Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas creating havoc. While Miami’s pass rush has overachieved they are no where close to those early 2000’s front 7’s that helped out Madison and surtain
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Byron isn't close to the player maker Mad/Sur were. This is like the first game in Byrons career where he's made plays.
 
MARINO1384 said:
I’m going to go X and Byron. This is the best I’ve ever seen corners play in Miami. Madison and Surtain were great but let’s not forget they had those two pretty good guys Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas creating havoc. While Miami’s pass rush has overachieved they are no where close to those early 2000’s front 7’s that helped out Madison and surtain
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It was also a different era, before the more liberal passing rules of today.

It's not really an apples to apples comparison.
 
Gonna take a couple more years before X is in the Madison conversation for greatest fins CB, and as far as Jones/Howard being on the level of Madison/Surtain; I'd say talent wise yes, but again, those guys did it for years. One thing that is certainly to the advantage of Jones/Howard is they aren't playing with Brock Marion, Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas. Then again, I wonder how many picks Madison and Surtain would've had if they were playing behind a blitz package like this.

Let's circle back in 2022. Hopefully, by then we'll be saying they are the better tandem.
 
MARINO1384 said:
I’m going to go X and Byron. This is the best I’ve ever seen corners play in Miami. Madison and Surtain were great but let’s not forget they had those two pretty good guys Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas creating havoc. While Miami’s pass rush has overachieved they are no where close to those early 2000’s front 7’s that helped out Madison and surtain
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That a bold statement bro... I myself am not quite there yet. X is amazing but to say this duo is better then mad/surtain is bold. Jones is no where near either of them in my opinion. I would say this is a next best type of thing tho
 
ANUFan said:
Yes! You do...Name a GREAT corner that didn't make plays?
NAME ONE!
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that’s opinion due to people’s love for stats. Players that get more ints will be considered greater than those who do not. People love stats so they’ll hype up players because of ints.

who’s better

player a
5 ints but gives up 1100 yards on the season and 7 tds

or player b
0/1 ints but gives up 550 yards and 2 tds
 
MARINO1384 said:
that’s opinion due to people’s love for stats. Players that get more ints will be considered greater than those who do not. People love stats so they’ll hype up players because of ints.

who’s better

player a
5 ints but gives up 1100 yards on the season and 7 tds

or player b
0/1 ints but gives up 550 yards and 2 tds
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So you can’t even name ONE?
 
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