RealDriscoll said:
Sorry I know you put a lot into this but I just dont agree...Buster Davis???? Lance Briggs???? Mike Gandy??????Honestly I dont like either...
RealDriscoll said:
Boomer said:I read your stuff. First of all, spell the names correctly. It's Yeremiah and Zgonina.
I also don't think we're 'close'. We have issues at QB, WR, tight end, LT, G, C, DT, OLB and K. That's not 'close' in my book.
Sammy Morris has played very well and has been a vital part of the ST unit. No way he's allowed to walk, even with Ricky coming back. Same with Minor. Travis is cheap and similarly does solid ST work.
Miami is $17.8 million under the cap.
Matt Roth has played well, but 'a complete beast'? That's some stretch.
As for the OL, Leonard Davis is an All Pro RG who was switched to cover injury and never moved back. As for Gandy, he's struggled and has been shifted to RT with the former tight end Jason Peter playing LT. Oben is too old. Both Briggs and Thomas will be too expensive for us and Briggs, frankly, doesn't really fit the system. I would expect Thomas to end up in somewhere like San Francisco. You've ignored the three best LG prospects, Steinbach, Manuwai and Dielman, all legitimate targets.
London Fletcher isn't a Patriot LB.
I haven't got the time or the inclination to go through the draft, suffice to say that no JaMarcus Russell in the top 5/7? And it's Revis. And Brandon Merriweather isn't a 1st rounder. Buster Davis isn't a Miami linebacker.
As for our 'roster', Jeno James won't be here. And Rodrique Wright to start......come on.
Your review of Chris Chambers is rather a homers call. Chambers has been mediocre and frankly he's done very little in 6 years in Miami, apart from do exactly what he did at Wisconsin. He's taken over 1 game in 6 years. Not good enough.
Hagan has had 'a decent season'. Has he? I must have missed it.
Daniel Graham, a former 1st round pick and the best blocking tight end in the game won't 'come cheap'.
Joe Toledo a 'young stud'??? Where?
And calling Jeno James our best lineman is hilarious. Carey is our best lineman by a long chalk. James has struggled all season and never lived up to his billing after 2 solid years in Carolina.
Crosby the best kicker in college? I think Art Carmody and Alexis Serna would argue that.
Newman is solid? Is he?
Sorry to be critical dude, but needed to inject some reality.
Joey 22 said:Graham was not a 1st rounder, Watson was.
Boomer said:I read your stuff. First of all, spell the names correctly. It's Yeremiah and Zgonina.
Crosby the best kicker in college? I think Art Carmody and Alexis Serna would argue that.
Newman is solid? Is he?
Sorry to be critical dude, but needed to inject some reality.
unifiedtheory said:Daniel Graham was taken in the first round, 21st overall, in the 2002 draft from Colorado.
A quick note, never doubt Boomer's knowledge of the draft, past or present. :wink:
Joey 22 said:Sorry I googled it and it did came out a 1st rounder, again sorry everyone...
RealDriscoll said:Sorry about some of the spelling on the names. Spell check doesn't cover Yeremiah and Zginina. Boomer your my favorite read on this board so I respect your opinion. Here are some responses....
- Chambers has been decent and mediocre? He has more TD's since his arrival in the NFL than Chad Johnson and Steve Smith, I do not call that mediocre. He has been given no opportunity to excell this year and MIke Mularkey is too blame for this.
-Travis Minor and Sammy Morris returning? You think we would carry 4 RB's? Maybe.
- Briggs and Thomas out of our price range? How so ? If we are 17.4 million under and have a lot of overpaid veterans to release or restructure you don't think we could afford one? Briggs has been rumored to be interested in playing here.
-You are correct about carey being better than james. I would love a Steinbach but I think Briggs or Thomas should be our top priority.
- As for Gandy. LT is a terrible Position this year for Free Agency and besides Joe Thomas the draft is pretty weak is still.
Boomer I would like to see some of your expectations for off season free agency and draft because you do know a lot more than me. Boomer, you think playoffs next year?
Thanks for the input though guys...
GO DOLPHINS!
Joey 22 said:Graham was not a 1st rounder, Watson was.
Boomer said:Dude, first off, I wasn't trying to pick holes, especially over the spelling, I just get anal about that stuff.
With regards Chambers, you bring us his numbers but you genuinely can't mention Chambers in the same breath as either Smith or Johnson, probably the two best WR's in the game. Yes Chambers has more TD's, but he falls down on almost every other category:
Chambers has 370 catches, whilst CJ has 459 and Smith 337. But Smith only had 10 catches as a rookie and missed 2004 with injury. Considering he has 179 catches the last 2 seasons, it's pretty safe to assume that had he been healthy, he'd be out ahead of Chambers.
The same with yardage. CC has 5218, CJ 6840 and SS 4840, but again, Smith essentially missed two years and when you consider he has 2600+ yards the last 2 years, again he'd be well ahead of Chambers.
CC's YPC is less than the other two as well and whilst Smith's majority of fumbles came on punt and kick returns, all of Chambers' 10 fumbles were on pass plays. CJ has never fumbled. And CC has dropped far more balls than either of the others.
When you evaluate the two, Chambers is a mediocre WR who flashes brilliance, but generally is inconsistent. Johnson also has 5 1000+ yard seasons, Smith 3 and Chambers 1.
With regards Morris and Minor, the work that they do on ST is far more important than carrying 4 backs.
With regards 'overpaid vets to release', that doesn't mean that we simply wipe their wages from the cap - it doesn't work like that. Briggs also said he'd like to play in a number of places and if you check, the quotes came through his agent trying to pressure Chicago into a deal. I certainly think we'll be interested in Thomas, but in the end we'll be outbid.
Gandy, as I said, is playing RT....hardly an upgrade on what we have. And the draft is very strong at left tackle. After Thomas, you have Levi Brown, Jov Staley, Doug Free, Barry Richardson, Tony Ugoh, Ryan Harris, Jared Gaither, etc. Strong year.
My expectations are that we lack an x-factor on offense. That would make Ted Ginn Jr. a strong possibility. We also need a LT, so Levi Brown is a strong candidate. Interior linemen like Justin Blalock and Ben Grubbs would be high on our R1 list. As would a Lamar Woodley, and DT's like Justin Harrell, Amobi Okoye, etc. In the secondary, Hall, Revis and Antoine Cason would draw interest. In FA, I can see us try and persue a LG like Steinbach, Dielman or Manuwai and Leonard Davis at RG. I think we might look at an eric Johnson and Adalius Thomas, as well as DT's like Terdell Sands.
Playoffs? Depends on how Daunte recovers.
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yes, served.
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