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Malik Willis, perhaps our new GM has our Qb?

Unless he makes us a superbowl contender next year (or any single player for that matter), then NO.

We dont need to spend money on trash that is going to be replaced a year later.
 
djphinfan said:
I think that all depends on our new GM, if he thinks Malik is the man then he’ll sign him.

I don’t see big market Dollars here if that’s the case.

If he doesn’t think Malik is a franchise type qb then yeah draft time
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You might be right, but I believe he will ask for bigger then we can give money.
 
fansinceGWilson said:
I doubt this will happen, particularly if the goal is a top candidate for HC. would Harbaugh be OK with 'dude, I just signed a QB. Didn't need your input on roster moves. You know, like the way I'm going to run this.'
I expect the GM to do his due diligence and quickly discuss options with the HC, but I doubt we'll see many (any?) significant moves
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the coach will be brought in before a qb is signed
 
djphinfan said:
Imagine if the first move by Sullivan is to sign Malik Willis?

I mean he’s the GM so if he thinks he’s the guy we have to give him that trust ya know, he knows Malik up close and personal for years now.

I’d be cool with it because that’s his job, to evaluate talent and we need a qb if the future, sure I’m aware Ewers is here but he needs comp for sure.

26 years old, perhaps we all should take a hard look at that dude, maybe we get lucky that our new GM has the qb in his back pocket.

I thought it would be fun to evaluate Malik and post your analysis here just as if he was in the draft?
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Dumb idea
Dumb idea
Desperation post right here
 
Dolphin North said:
Not by today's standards. He didn't do anything in Tennessee and they quickly dumped him. Then he had about one heavy day's worth of throws last year, where he played great, but not long enough to expect top end salary. It could be done for sure. 12 to 15 M a year for 2 or 3 years? Would that work?
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To me it boils down to what Sully believes. If anyone knows what Willis can become that’s Sully. If he believes Willis can become someone who will enable us to compete with the big boys in our conference then spending 15 to 20 millions a year on Willis makes sense.
 
djphinfan said:
Imagine if the first move by Sullivan is to sign Malik Willis?

I mean he’s the GM so if he thinks he’s the guy we have to give him that trust ya know, he knows Malik up close and personal for years now.

I’d be cool with it because that’s his job, to evaluate talent and we need a qb if the future, sure I’m aware Ewers is here but he needs comp for sure.

26 years old, perhaps we all should take a hard look at that dude, maybe we get lucky that our new GM has the qb in his back pocket.

I thought it would be fun to evaluate Malik and post your analysis here just as if he was in the draft?
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I think Willis is going to make big money. I’d stay away personally.
 
Dark Matter said:
We're talking hypothetical money here so it's really all based on opinion.
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There’s nothing hypothetical about the salary cap. But I guess it is possible to sign this guy if you gave him a signing bonus and spread it out over a few years. You’d have to commit to him for a few years though, and with $99 million of dead cap money for Tua no matter how you slice it (remaining guarantee) that might be a tough pill to swallow. Then again, our new gm may feel strong about him and may be willing to do it. The math I was talking about is that if you account for all the players who’s contracts expire, like Rasul Douglas, Jack Jones, etc. to even be able to field a team next year we are something like $35 million or so over the cap to begin with. We can clear something like $50 million cutting tyreek hill and Chubb and some other players, but then that would only leave us $15 million in cap space or so And to sign the rookie class plus practice squad, plus do you want to bring back any of those veteran corners? Plus are we giving Achane and our best linebacker an extension? Money is so tight that’s all I’m sayin, but if the gm really believes in Malik Willis maybe he can do it, but mathematically there’s just not very much money available. There is in 2027, but 2026 is gonna be tight and Malik Willis showed enough that the projections I’ve seen for free agents have him at around $25 million per season, so that’s where I was coming from with that take. Didn’t mean to offend…
 
Kyndig said:
There’s nothing hypothetical about the salary cap. But I guess it is possible to sign this guy if you gave him a signing bonus and spread it out over a few years. You’d have to commit to him for a few years though, and with $99 million of dead cap money for Tua no matter how you slice it (remaining guarantee) that might be a tough pill to swallow. Then again, our new gm may feel strong about him and may be willing to do it. The math I was talking about is that if you account for all the players who’s contracts expire, like Rasul Douglas, Jack Jones, etc. to even be able to field a team next year we are something like $35 million or so over the cap to begin with. We can clear something like $50 million cutting tyreek hill and Chubb and some other players, but then that would only leave us $15 million in cap space or so And to sign the rookie class plus practice squad, plus do you want to bring back any of those veteran corners? Plus are we giving Achane and our best linebacker an extension? Money is so tight that’s all I’m sayin, but if the gm really believes in Malik Willis maybe he can do it, but mathematically there’s just not very much money available. There is in 2027, but 2026 is gonna be tight and Malik Willis showed enough that the projections I’ve seen for free agents have him at around $25 million per season, so that’s where I was coming from with that take. Didn’t mean to offend…
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Willis value is 100% hypothetical. Those projections you've seen are just opinions. If someone wants to pay him $25m based on his small sample size then good luck to them.
 
I'm just not seeing why people are so enamoured with Willis. He was absolutely terrible in Tennessee, he goes to a franchise with a good OL, good receivers and a good coach and looks OK in limited reps and suddenly people want to pay what is likely going to be $20M a season to bring him in?

My money would be on him failing terribly in Miami once he has to play behind the likes of Jonah, Strange and Borom while trying to throw to guys like the Washington's, NWI etc rather than Doubs, Golden, Watson, Kraft etc.
 
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Springveldt said:
The Jets gave Fields $20M per season after he failed at 2 different teams. There is no shortage of QB needy teams out there willing to throw cash at someone who "might" be it.
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Yes there are always the Jests! When they gave Fields that money, I was like, WTF!
 
Springveldt said:
I'm just not seeing why people are so enamoured with Willis. He was absolutely terrible in Tennessee, he goes to a franchise with a good OL, good receivers and a good coach and looks OK in limited reps and suddenly people want to pay what is likely going to be $20M a season to bring him in?

My money would be on him failing terribly in Miami once he has to play behind the likes of Jonah, Strange and Borom while trying to throw to guys like the Washington's, NWI etc rather than Doubs, Golden, Watson, Kraft etc.
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Who’s enamored ?
 
PHINSfan said:
To me it boils down to what Sully believes. If anyone knows what Willis can become that’s Sully. If he believes Willis can become someone who will enable us to compete with the big boys in our conference then spending 15 to 20 millions a year on Willis makes sense.
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Even Sully, having seen those 35 passes and the guy up close cannot know that as well as he would after seeing a full season of work for example. Nobody can. So with that uncertainty you can likely get him for less. I haven't looked at our cap but I'm sure carrying Tua's dead money as well as others next year will mean we're tight.
 
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