Manning/ flynn decision made easier!!!

[fisi]

Its very easy: If miami wants to win now, manning is the guy but if we want what they have in green bay and ny, then matt flynn is the guy. By that i mean, get a guy and build around him, for now and the future. I have to admit, i never liked peyton mannning since i was all florida boy. I mean the canes, noles and gators. I've always thought peyton is not a winner until he won one against tha bears right there in our house.


But then i didn't know much about matt flynn neither other than he played at lsu and was very good. He was known as a dink and dunk qb but i guess four years of aprenticeship have changed that.

I sincerely believe miami should sign matt flynn to a five year contract, build around him. By that i mean .establish a scheme that would better utilze his skills and get players that fit that scheme. I have always believed that miami is about five to six good players away from being a chamionship calibre team.
Also, win-now atitude hasn't done anyting for miami in past 10 years. No one wants to say the "build" word but there i said it, miami must be re"build".

 

[DeathStar]

I think Manning's nerve damage is too great and he won't regain his full strength in his arm...

 

[Kinzua]

I think Manning's nerve damage is too great and he won't regain his full strength in his arm...

This. I think Peyton himself has admitted that he needs to regain his arm strength and doesn't know how long that will take. Rumors out of Indy say he'll retire after the Super Bowl.

 

[miami234ever]

As much as I love Manning and wish he could come give us a few good seasons, my gut keeps telling me it just won't work. Nerve damage is not something that can easily be overcome, and even if it fully heals, the repetitions and hits he will experience may not allow the nerve to become stable for 1-3 years. Flynn is definitely a risk, but his youth and familiarity with coach Philbin could put him over the top. Plus, if it makes Marshall happy, we should definitely consider making a pitch for Flynn.

 

[trojanma]

Its very easy: If miami wants to win now, manning is the guy but if we want what they have in green bay and ny, then matt flynn is the guy. By that i mean, get a guy and build around him, for now and the future. I have to admit, i never liked peyton mannning since i was all florida boy. I mean the canes, noles and gators. I've always thought peyton is not a winner until he won one against tha bears right there in our house.


But then i didn't know much about matt flynn neither other than he played at lsu and was very good. He was known as a dink and dunk qb but i guess four years of aprenticeship have changed that.

I sincerely believe miami should sign matt flynn to a five year contract, build around him. By that i mean .establish a scheme that would better utilze his skills and get players that fit that scheme. I have always believed that miami is about five to six good players away from being a chamionship calibre team.
Also, win-now atitude hasn't done anyting for miami in past 10 years. No one wants to say the "build" word but there i said it, miami must be re"build".

The scenario that you are not accounting for is what if Philbin says to pass on Flynn.
Everyone assumes that because we have Philbin he will automatically want Flynn.
Well we haven't made any official overtures that we do?
Either this is gamesmanship by the staff to avoid him getting tagged or they truly don't want him.

 

[Crump]

as much as it would be nice to have manning and draft a qb to tudor under him for about 2-3 seasons, i would really like to go the flynn route. not necessarily because that flynn may/may not be the next aaron rodgers. but so that manning will be a colt for life. marino was cut from the fins (per se..they declined the option on his contract) and thats one of the biggest things i respect about marino is he WAS a DOLPHIN. i'd kinda like manning for colts fan (which i know 0 of) to be able to say the same thing. we WAS a COLT. so yeah it would be sweet to half a potentially healthy hof qb for the next two years. i'd like to see him fall into marinos roll and just bow out as being the colts greatest qb ever and only a colt. but then again my philisophy which ive been pimping hard is keep matt moore and i want ga's QB when he comes out.

 

[King Dingaling]

My hope is that we sign Flynn and Peyton retires a few days later. I just wish we will finally get it right!!!

 

[Hayden Fox]

I expect to win IF the Fins sign Matt Flynn.

 

[Mr. Day]

When the rest of the league get more tape on Matt Flynn, I wonder if people will be so high on him. In other words, I am a bit concerned that people are giving this guy franchise quarterback status, and money based upon what he did in two games. If my memory serves me correctly, his clock management at the end of the Patriots game was terrible and a major reason why they lost the game. He looks like fools gold to me. Hopefully I am wrong, but I just wanted to throw that out there. Buyer Beware!!

 

[dolphinators13]

I think Manning's nerve damage is too great and he won't regain his full strength in his arm...

This

I had a back surgery similar to Manning's neck surgery from an injury suffered in High School Wrestling. I had a huge herniation which was pinching a nerve in my left leg. To this day my leg is very weak and I can only do cardio (running) for about 25 min before my leg gives out from the nerve damage. I am 25 now, and I had two procedures. Manning is 35, almost 36 and has had 3 operations and the injury is affecting his arm strength. The surgery I had and the one Manning had are on different parts of the body but similar. My leg still hurts every day and is weak and I would say Manning is suffering as well. I would guess his career is over.

 

[MD]

The scenario that you are not accounting for is what if Philbin says to pass on Flynn.
Everyone assumes that because we have Philbin he will automatically want Flynn.
Well we haven't made any official overtures that we do?
Either this is gamesmanship by the staff to avoid him getting tagged or they truly don't want him.

They can't comment on Flynn without violating the league's tampering rules.

 

[Mac]

Trust in Philban, he has intimate knowledge of Flynn, If he wants him we'll get him, Ross saved a butload of money when Fisher chose to go to the Rams, We'll get Flynn is Philban says he's worth it.

 

[Butterfrog 2.0]

If the Dr. that did Mannings surgery says 90% of the people after the operation heal 100% then I tend to believe him but idk how long it takes to actually get back to 100%. I remember a while back a lot of people were saying Brees' arm would never be right again after his injury and operation and none of them knew what they were talking about(including the Dolphins physicians). Either way you look at it though Manning is a risk, but like someone else said we don't even know if our new coach is sold on Flynn and if he's not then I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. If Philbin isn't sold on Flynn, and you don't want to take the rsik on Manning then you're only stuck with 2 options... give up the farm to move up and get RG3(who is also a big risk) or roll with Matt Moore again next season.

 

[luduporcu]

Unlike most of you, I consider MOORE to be a VERY good QB, with a VERY complete "skills set", which includes poise and leadership. We needn't go into full detail, but it matters who your coaches and teammates are: GB is GB, and MIAMI is MIAMI, complete w/PARCELLS, HENNING and PARCELLSBALL as its "system". Oh, and COLUMBO of course.

College data is nice, but fairly unimportant. And FLYNN's time on the sidelines isn't much more important than that. "Practice" has more value, but only so much and no more. The ONLY real indication comes from playing in games that count. E.G., in preseason games, the back-up QB plays against 3rd and 4th string players, almost all of whom will be flipping burgers after Labor Day. FLYNN's resumee is 2 NFL games long, playing w/GB. It's not enough!!! I could be convinced that MIAMI should go for FLYNN. After all, he is a F/A and won't cost MIAMI draft picks: just money, and MIAMI has a good amount of caproom which can easily be greatly increased w/o harm to the rest of the team; and ROSS has megabucks. So FLYNN at least is "off on the right foot". But a "clincher" is necessary, and there's ONLY ONE, as far as I'm concerned. And it's this: Coach PHILBIN absolutely and unequivocally must ENDORSE FLYNN in the strongest possible way. He has to put HIMSELF on the line, or it's no go. MOORE, behind the GB O-Line, and w/NO COLUMBO, i/m/o would have easily posted a W-L record of 10-2, maybe 11-1. Even behind MIAMI's joke of an O-L, just add a solid F/A G, and substitute CAREY for COLUMBO at RT, and i/m/o the result would be about the same. THAT is significant. So, I want to hear a really POWERFUL recommendation of FLYNN by Coach PHILBIN, or forget it.

 

[Butterfrog 2.0]

Unlike most of you, I consider MOORE to be a VERY good QB, with a VERY complete "skills set", which includes poise and leadership. We needn't go into full detail, but it matters who your coaches and teammates are: GB is GB, and MIAMI is MIAMI, complete w/PARCELLS, HENNING and PARCELLSBALL as its "system". Oh, and COLUMBO of course.

Can you really even envision Matt Moore throwing for almost 500 yards and 6 td's? Why do some people think Matt Moore is such a good QB? 2,500 yards 16 td's and 9 int's in 12+ games is far from great. It's decent, it's slightly above average, and it doesn't suck but are you willing to settle for that? If so then you better hope Philbin and Co. get our defense to an elite level, and I mean top 1 or 2 in the league before we even start to talk about competing for championships because without a elite talent elsewhere Matt moore isn't going to get us anywhere near a SB.