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Manning vs Tua So Far

Manning went to a much worse team that eventually ended up putting the pieces around him to make them a contender. Defense was always the issue. They had Freeney, Mathis, a never healthy Sanders, I guess Brackett if he can be counted, and nothing else on D for his entire Colts career. And they were still able to win a SB. Pretty unbelievable when you think about it.
 
Didn't Manning have 33 INT's as a rookie?

Dude had no leash to worry about and could literally do whatever he wanted.

Also Marvin Harrison was already in his third season when Manning was a rookie, can't use the excuse that he had nothing.
 
Manning went to a much worse team that eventually ended up putting the pieces around him to make them a contender. Defense was always the issue. They had Freeney, Mathis, a never healthy Sanders, I guess Brackett if he can be counted, and nothing else on D for his entire Colts career. And they were still able to win a SB. Pretty unbelievable when you think about it.

You mean starting with Tarik Glenn at LT, Marvin Harrison and Marshall Faulk at RB was starting with a worse team?

Sounds to me like they already had pieces around Manning. Great WR and RB, pretty darn good o line.

Manning started with a good offensive group
 
You mean starting with Tarik Glenn at LT, Marvin Harrison and Marshall Faulk at RB was starting with a worse team?

Sounds to me like they already had pieces around Manning. Great WR and RB, pretty darn good o line.

Manning started with a good offensive group

Agreed but for me …

The biggest thing that Manning had was a coach who wasn’t trying to run him out of town
 
You mean starting with Tarik Glenn at LT, Marvin Harrison and Marshall Faulk at RB was starting with a worse team?

Sounds to me like they already had pieces around Manning. Great WR and RB, pretty darn good o line.

Manning started with a good offensive group


Feel like I said defense was always the issue but maybe I didn't ... 🤔
 
Feel like I said defense was always the issue but maybe I didn't ... 🤔

If that was what you meant my bad.

You did state the defense stunk.

I may have misunderstand when you said he started with a worse team.

My bad.

Yeah, that defense stunk
 
Could you imagine Tua ONLY winning ONE Super Bowl with Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edgerrin James, Dallas Clark and Dwight Freeney and a decent defense?

Brady won Super Bowls.

Ty Law got them there.

People think Brady and Belichek were Manning’s nemesis’s. Couldn’t be more wrong. It was Ty Law.
 
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