Mare-Feely Comparison. Poll

[Da 'Fins]

Do you think the Dolphins made a good move here?

Here's a brief analysis I did:

Mare – 10 year veteran. He has 722 kickoffs for an average of exactly 64.0 yards/kick. He has 159 TB’s – 22% of all kickoffs. That's exceptional. In FG’s he is 245/303 – 80.8%. However, in the last five years, Mare broke 80% one time: 77.4, 75.9, 75, 83.3 and 72.2. He has gone down significantly.

Feely – 6 year veteran. He has 485 kickoffs for an average of 63.6 yrds/kick. He has 67 touchbacks – 13.8% of all kickoffs. In FG’s he is 156 of 196 – for a 79.6% average. The last two years, however, his combined total was 58/69 – for 84%. (Averaging over 83% each year).

Mare has actually been a bit better between 40-49 yards over the past 3-4 seasons, which one would expect given his slightly more powerful leg (he can kick a bit smoother and more relaxed from that distance). Where Mare has seen his problems has been between 30-39 yards. This is really where he has hurt the Dolphins. His kicking style does not create a consistent draw (as most soccer style kickers do) and his ball tends to go straight or fade slightly. Given his actually better percentage between 40-49 than 30-39, it would appear he has a bit of a psychological problem at the shorter, mid-range distance.

The Dolphins will miss Mare on kickoffs, but only slightly. Mare is 4 years ahead of Feely in experience and it is likely that over the next 3-4 years, Olindo's power may tale off slightly, while Feely is virtually in his prime years and should not drop off (he may even improve his power, as Mare did his previous four seasons). In fact, Feely has steadily improved his power on kickoffs the last two years, averaging a career best 64.6 on kickoffs last year. Still not up to Mare's standards: 67 and 65.6 the last two years. Still, Feely was kicking in colder weather more often (with the Giants) which generally has a negative impact on ball carry - so, he may actually be comparable to Olindo down in Miami's warm humid air. And, Feely is under contract for 4 years.

All in all, this appears to me to be a subtle but very astute move by Meuller.

 

[SabanHater]

nice research. I agree with the move.
Mare has been going down each season.
Enough is enough!

 

[Bigjbizzle2]

if he dont miss 10 fg it was the right move

 

[BennySwella]

Mare completed his transformation into a douche bag by refusing to take a pay cut and performing at a sub-par level this last year. I like Feely, but I'm just glad Mare is gone.

 

[PhenomenalPhin]

I think it was good signing a younger, more accurate (as of late) kicker.

 

[Regan21286]

Mare is subpar but we spent too much on Feely.

 

[sleek]

IMO kickers are tough to compare because all of them miss at times,many play on different surfaces or in different types of weather,some are good at short range field goals and some at long,some have trouble with certain holders.To me there is no rhyme or reason to them.They all seem to go through ups and downs.Its kind of like they all function off emotion.To me they are all pretty much even. Iguess Vinateri is the most hyped but if other players had the opportunities to kick superbowl game winners they may be able to rise to the occasion too, some just never get that chance. Vanderjagt was accurate but he was inside alot of the time would he be as good outside? And then how do u explain a kind of a no namer such as Matt Bryant drilling a 63yarder. One thing Ican say is it is not a position that a ton of money should be invested in IMO due to their unpredictability.

 

[Alex44]

Better comparison:

Mare 2006: 26 of 36 for 72.2%

20 to 29 yards: 10-10
30 to 39 yards: 6-8
40 to 49 yards: 9-12
Over 50 yards: 1-6

Jay Feely 2006: 23-27 85%

20 to 29 yards: 7-7
30 to 39 yards: 10-11
40 to 49 yards: 6-8
Over 50 yards: 0-1

Notice Feely only even attempted one kick over 50 yards and missed! Lets look at what the % of Mare would have been had he only be forced to kick one over 50 yards and missed it.

That would have made him 25 of 31 on the year. Which is 80%

Mare also has a stronger leg for kickoffs. IMO we made a horrible move to may the same money for a kicker who isn't any better.

To go even a step farther Mare had two kicks blocked, which isn't always the kickers fault. They onky difference in their % was from 30 to 39 yards where Feely topped Mare. Mare only missed two from that range and I think both were in unfavorable conditions.

 

[LarryFinFan]

Mare completed his transformation into a douche bag by refusing to take a pay cut and performing at a sub-par level this last year. I like Feely, but I'm just glad Mare is gone.

Except that we are paying Feely close to the same overall money as Mare was getting....Doesn't make much sense to me...the ONLY advantage that Feely has is that his actual cap hit will be less and he's younger, but what is the real difference if we are paying them both $1.5-2 M a year ?? As you pointed out, statistically, they are pretty much the same...

 

[finfan54]

Except that we are paying Feely close to the same overall money as Mare was getting....Doesn't make much sense to me...the ONLY advantage that Feely has is that his actual cap hit will be less and he's younger, but what is the real difference if we are paying them both $1.5-2 M a year ?? As you pointed out, statistically, they are pretty much the same...

The difference may be instead of losing to the Jets, we win.

 

[guatemalanfan]

I dont know really, I remember he missed like 4 Field Goals against the seahawks once

 

[slyfox13]

Do you think the Dolphins made a good move here?

Here's a brief analysis I did:

Mare – 10 year veteran. He has 722 kickoffs for an average of exactly 64.0 yards/kick. He has 159 TB’s – 22% of all kickoffs. That's exceptional. In FG’s he is 245/303 – 80.8%. However, in the last five years, Mare broke 80% one time: 77.4, 75.9, 75, 83.3 and 72.2. He has gone down significantly.

Feely – 6 year veteran. He has 485 kickoffs for an average of 63.6 yrds/kick. He has 67 touchbacks – 13.8% of all kickoffs. In FG’s he is 156 of 196 – for a 79.6% average. The last two years, however, his combined total was 58/69 – for 84%. (Averaging over 83% each year).

Mare has actually been a bit better between 40-49 yards over the past 3-4 seasons, which one would expect given his slightly more powerful leg (he can kick a bit smoother and more relaxed from that distance). Where Mare has seen his problems has been between 30-39 yards. This is really where he has hurt the Dolphins. His kicking style does not create a consistent draw (as most soccer style kickers do) and his ball tends to go straight or fade slightly. Given his actually better percentage between 40-49 than 30-39, it would appear he has a bit of a psychological problem at the shorter, mid-range distance.

The Dolphins will miss Mare on kickoffs, but only slightly. Mare is 4 years ahead of Feely in experience and it is likely that over the next 3-4 years, Olindo's power may tale off slightly, while Feely is virtually in his prime years and should not drop off (he may even improve his power, as Mare did his previous four seasons). In fact, Feely has steadily improved his power on kickoffs the last two years, averaging a career best 64.6 on kickoffs last year. Still not up to Mare's standards: 67 and 65.6 the last two years. Still, Feely was kicking in colder weather more often (with the Giants) which generally has a negative impact on ball carry - so, he may actually be comparable to Olindo down in Miami's warm humid air. And, Feely is under contract for 4 years.

All in all, this appears to me to be a subtle but very astute move by Meuller.

comes down to money!:cooldude:

 

[noname]

Better comparison:

Mare 2006: 26 of 36 for 72.2%

20 to 29 yards: 10-10
30 to 39 yards: 6-8
40 to 49 yards: 9-12
Over 50 yards: 1-6

Jay Feely 2006: 23-27 85%

20 to 29 yards: 7-7
30 to 39 yards: 10-11
40 to 49 yards: 6-8
Over 50 yards: 0-1

Notice Feely only even attempted one kick over 50 yards and missed! Lets look at what the % of Mare would have been had he only be forced to kick one over 50 yards and missed it.

That would have made him 25 of 31 on the year. Which is 80%

Mare also has a stronger leg for kickoffs. IMO we made a horrible move to may the same money for a kicker who isn't any better.

To go even a step farther Mare had two kicks blocked, which isn't always the kickers fault. They onky difference in their % was from 30 to 39 yards where Feely topped Mare. Mare only missed two from that range and I think both were in unfavorable conditions.

nice argument...unless they saved a bunch of money on this, this was not a good deal

 

[musphinzfan]

I liked Feeley on Cold Pizza but on the field Mare blows him away....Not a good move at all.