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Come ON people! Some want or expect Green as our starter. Not happening. IF we sign him, he will be our back-up to C-Pep. Consider THE BEST QB of all time retired at age 38 b/c he wasn't what he used to be (our boy Marino), yet some are calling for the slightly above-average Green to start at age 37?!?!?!?
Imagine if you take your same attitude toward an immediate comparison of Green -vs- Marino at similar age's! Frankly, I take Marino at age 38 over Green at age 30.
So Green is a good acquisition if DC's knee is bad again. If Cpep can't make it after a few games, Green can take the reign's and be a positive on O', and not simply a caretaker! Green is OLD. IF we sign him it is NOT to be our starter, but instead to be a back-up plan to C-Pep's knee failing him. In my opinion, BRILLIANCE... more props to Mueller and Cam for at the very least, looking into the possibility.
 
alienalias said:
Come ON people! Some want or expect Green as our starter. Not happening. IF we sign him, he will be our back-up to C-Pep. Consider THE BEST QB of all time retired at age 38 b/c he wasn't what he used to be (our boy Marino), yet some are calling for the slightly above-average Green to start at age 37?!?!?!?
Imagine if you take your same attitude toward an immediate comparison of Green -vs- Marino at similar age's! Frankly, I take Marino at age 38 over Green at age 30.
So Green is a good acquisition if DC's knee is bad again. If Cpep can't make it after a few games, Green can take the reign's and be a positive on O', and not simply a caretaker! Green is OLD. IF we sign him it is NOT to be our starter, but instead to be a back-up plan to C-Pep's knee failing him. In my opinion, BRILLIANCE... more props to Mueller and Cam for at the very least, looking into the possibility.
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why is this so hard to under stand? green is only a 1-2 year stop gap player. if green signs here he will not back up DC. DC will be gone. it doesnt make any sense to sign him if were keeping DC. If there is doubt about DC recovering then he will be gone.

any interest in green should tell you that
1. DC will be gone, hopefully traded
2. they dont believe that cleo can be a full time starter. he is an ok back up,signing green would demote him to 3rd team, aint gonna happen. he would be released first.

signing green is also a sign that we will target a new qb in the draft.
 
If cam thought cpep wasn't gonna come back, he woudl have been gone by now.
Seeing as how he hasn't been cut yet, and I have read nothign but cam talking positive about culpepper I don't see him being anywhere but miami next year.
I can't wait for all of this nonsense to fade.

I don't think we sign green but you never know.
 
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alienalias said:
Come ON people! Some want or expect Green as our starter. Not happening. IF we sign him, he will be our back-up to C-Pep. Consider THE BEST QB of all time retired at age 38 b/c he wasn't what he used to be (our boy Marino), yet some are calling for the slightly above-average Green to start at age 37?!?!?!?
Imagine if you take your same attitude toward an immediate comparison of Green -vs- Marino at similar age's! Frankly, I take Marino at age 38 over Green at age 30.
So Green is a good acquisition if DC's knee is bad again. If Cpep can't make it after a few games, Green can take the reign's and be a positive on O', and not simply a caretaker! Green is OLD. IF we sign him it is NOT to be our starter, but instead to be a back-up plan to C-Pep's knee failing him. In my opinion, BRILLIANCE... more props to Mueller and Cam for at the very least, looking into the possibility.
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That slightly above average Trent Green has a higher career passer rating then Dan Marino. In five of the last seven years he's had a career passer rating in the ninties, or higher, and you probably can't name a single receiver he's been throwing to other then Tony Gonzalez, a Hall of Fame tight end, but a tight end nonetheless. At age 30 Trent Green had a 102 passer rating, at age 38, Marino threw 5 more picks then touchdowns and had a passer rating of 67, so I can only conclude from your inane statement that you'd take a 38-year old Marino over a 30-year old Green that you are simply not a person to be taken seriously. Credibility is easily lost, and you lost it.

Trent Green in a wheel chair is a better quarterback then Daunte Culpepper. If he comes to Miami he's not sitting behind CPep, because CPep couldn't beat the guy out even if he was healthy. There is a previous working relationship between Cameron and Green going back to their days with the Redskins, and more importantly, Green has been playing in a system that is a variation of the old Air Coryell offense for the last seven-years, which Cameron is also an adherent of. And new Dolphins quarterbacks coach Terry Shea coached Green in KC for four-years. Green isn't coming to Miami to be a backup. He'd just take a pay cut and stay in KC if that were the case.
 
finintheburgh said:
why is this so hard to under stand? green is only a 1-2 year stop gap player. if green signs here he will not back up DC. DC will be gone. it doesnt make any sense to sign him if were keeping DC. If there is doubt about DC recovering then he will be gone.

any interest in green should tell you that
1. DC will be gone, hopefully traded
2. they dont believe that cleo can be a full time starter. he is an ok back up,signing green would demote him to 3rd team, aint gonna happen. he would be released first.

signing green is also a sign that we will target a new qb in the draft.
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Sign here? He has something like 2 years left on his current contract and the Phins are talking about trading for him. Do you mean restructure? It would make sense to get Trent Green with DC still here as a backup considering we have Lemons as our only other QB. And considering Daunte's situation, we do need to prepare and get a player that is capable of starting week in and week out.

I didn't know it was possible, but in my eyes a lot of y'all are oversimplifying and over thinking this potential move at the same time. He could be brought here simply as a backup or to compete with the starting job. Either way, he gives us 3 QBs. So he coming here doesn't mean Daunte's automatically gone.
 
If green was to be brought here it would only be an insurance policy on Cpep's health,when the season gets ready to start and daunte is healthy,then green will be cut and cleo will be the back up,if daunte is'nt healthy than cleo will start and green will back him up.

I believe we will know if daunte is ready to go before the draft,the evaluations will be heavy on Daunte,,,probably like a proday when he was in college.
 
djphinfan said:
If green was to be brought here it would only be an insurance policy on Cpep's health,when the season gets ready to start and daunte is healthy,then green will be cut and cleo will be the back up,if daunte is'nt healthy than cleo will start and green will back him up.

I believe we will know if daunte is ready to go before the draft,the evaluations will be heavy on Daunte,,,probably like a proday when he was in college.
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Where do you guys get this stuff? Trent Green as backup to Cleo Lemon? Daunte Culpepper hasn't played good football in three years! There are serious questions as to not only Culpepper's health, but his ability to function as a competent starting quarterback without the comfort system he had in Randy Moss (Of the 129 TDs Culpepper threw in his first six-years in Minnesota, 55 were to Randy Moss, just the old fly pattern, go up and get it Randy.) A geriatric Trent Green is a better quarterback then Daunte Culpepper. He won't be backing up CPep, and he definitely ain't backing up Cleo Lemon.
 
I just see Green as a 1-2 year insurance policy. He put up some great numbers with KC....I would rather have him come in if DC is still immobile and pretty useless than Lemon who has little experience. It is looking like Quinn will likely be gone, so we may have to make due with what we have until we can draft the QB of the future. I would still like to draft Quinn but if not we need a guy like Trent Green as a solid backup or possible starter.
 
finintheburgh said:
why is this so hard to under stand? green is only a 1-2 year stop gap player. if green signs here he will not back up DC. DC will be gone. it doesnt make any sense to sign him if were keeping DC. If there is doubt about DC recovering then he will be gone.

any interest in green should tell you that
1. DC will be gone, hopefully traded
2. they dont believe that cleo can be a full time starter. he is an ok back up,signing green would demote him to 3rd team, aint gonna happen. he would be released first.

signing green is also a sign that we will target a new qb in the draft.
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What team will take Culpepper? All I can think of that would actually be stupid to make a trade are the Raiders. Maybe Houston, Cleveland is in position to draft a quarterback and so are the Lions. Jacksonville may be interested especially with Tice. But those are the only teams that I think Daunte MAY be a starter in.

But if we sign Trent Green, anyone who is interested of Daunte Culpepper will be waiting for us to release him instead of trying to work with us on a trade; once it is known that Green came here to start.

Daunte's contract and his health is insane. Most expensive 3rd string QB last season.
 
2413fanphins said:
If cam thought cpep wasn't gonna come back, he woudl have been gone by now.
Seeing as how he hasn't been cut yet, and I have read nothign but cam talking positive about culpepper I don't see him being anywhere but miami next year.
I can't wait for all of this nonsense to fade.

I don't think we sign green but you never know.
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if DC is going to be released it will be after june 1st, when they will have the option to split up his cap hit.

how often does a coach come out and say neg about players on his team? of course he going to say pos stuff. maybe hoping some one will give us something for him.

actions speak louder than words, and if green is brought here ,that will be very bad for DC.

As far as keeping 3 qbs goes, yes we will keep 3 qbs , but they are usually used like this
1. starter - green /DC
2. back up- lemon
3.3rd string is a young project 1-3 years in the league

cleo will not go back to thrid string and green wont come here to be backup, and DC will not stay here as a back up.
 
alienalias said:
Come ON people! Some want or expect Green as our starter. Not happening. IF we sign him, he will be our back-up to C-Pep. Consider THE BEST QB of all time retired at age 38 b/c he wasn't what he used to be (our boy Marino), yet some are calling for the slightly above-average Green to start at age 37?!?!?!?
Imagine if you take your same attitude toward an immediate comparison of Green -vs- Marino at similar age's! Frankly, I take Marino at age 38 over Green at age 30.
So Green is a good acquisition if DC's knee is bad again. If Cpep can't make it after a few games, Green can take the reign's and be a positive on O', and not simply a caretaker! Green is OLD. IF we sign him it is NOT to be our starter, but instead to be a back-up plan to C-Pep's knee failing him. In my opinion, BRILLIANCE... more props to Mueller and Cam for at the very least, looking into the possibility.
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DON'T EVER COMPARE TREN GREEN TO DANNY!:tantrum: :fire: :chase:
 
Just a thought on the subject. I believe the Fins will trade for Green, and he will come in as the starter. The Chiefs don't want Green in Oakland, which should lower the price. A possible scenario would be that the Fins bring in Green, and then trade C-Pep to Oakland. C-Pep fits the Davis mold of a long baller, and would reunite with Moss (which would make him stop whining). Allthough this part may be wishful thinking, Miami could package C-pep and the #9 pick (maybe another pick(s) as well) and move up to #1. While I doubt it would happen this way, it would be a nice scenario.
 
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