Marlins Stadium

[Dthrill_08]

I had a conversation with my cousin the other day. Even tho the Marlins are tied for first in their division and once we get the agreement to renovate our stadium in the near future what can happen if the Marlins keep doing horrible and hopefully move city can we keep that stadium? Can it be renovated for football, how would the parking for tailgating work?

 

[MikeO]

im pretty sure the Marlins are locked into a lease with the city that prevents them from moving for many many years

 

[Kdawg954]

Yep, I believe they are stuck for the next 27 years (30 total) before they could be potentially moved.

The OB was a good site for a new Hurricanes stadium, but I wasn't a fan of putting a Dolphins stadium there. However, it would of been great to possibly temporarily play at a Hurricanes stadium while blowing up Sunlife and rebuilding on the same grounds.

Like I've said, I'm cool with the location the stadium is currently at, but the stadium itself needs to go and $400 million in renovations ain't gonna cut it.

Teams like the Marlins and Panthers need to win consistently to get consistent attendance. When these teams are winning, the places fill up. Panthers made the playoffs in 2012 and the BB&T Center was ROCKING hard. In the 2 Marlins playoff runs that led to World Series Championships, the crowds were as live as I've ever seen. The Triple A has become a force at home now that the Heat are winning consistently and this isn't a basketball town (well now it is but it never was).

Winning makes all the difference. Miami Marlins are going to make the playoffs sooner than later and I guarantee that ballpark will be a spectacle. They needed their own stadium, just the way it was accomplished leaves a sour taste in people's mouths.

 

[JCane]

So when it comes time for the Marlins to be contracted/moved, we would want to move into a 30 year-old out-dated stadium retrofitted for football that would maybe hold 50K?

No thanks.

 

[So Be]

Marlin's stadium has a seating capacity of 37,000, third smallest in baseball. Just imagine the battle for Dolphins tickets.

 

[Kdawg954]

Marlin's stadium has a seating capacity of 37,000, third smallest in baseball. Just imagine the battle for Dolphins tickets.

Not only that, good luck convincing the league to award you a Super Bowl with that capacity . . . hell even 50,000 is not enough. You need at least 70,000 nowadays and that's on the low side.

 

[So Be]

Have to wonder IF and when NFL stadium attendence will falter with true fans, and not Corp guys? Many now prefer the big screen with great cheap food and drink and friends. It is a big concern for the NFL as well.

 

[LandShark13]

I had a conversation with my cousin the other day. Even tho the Marlins are tied for first in their division and once we get the agreement to renovate our stadium in the near future what can happen if the Marlins keep doing horrible and hopefully move city can we keep that stadium? Can it be renovated for football, how would the parking for tailgating work?

Wow. I'm not a Marlins fan but for the life of me I cant imagine how anyone would think that losing a major league Team is a good thing. Seriously??

 

[fishfanmiami]

Don't knock the marlins guys. They have managed to develop some really great players including a triple crown winner for other teams
You could make a very good line up of guys they let leave through their penny pinching management style.

i like Kdawgs idea of just blowing up the existing structure and building a modern stadium at the same location. After all Ross owns the land or has a long term lease if i'm not mistaken. Probably will not happen without tax money to help with the cost.

 

[Kdawg954]

Have to wonder IF and when NFL stadium attendence will falter with true fans, and not Corp guys? Many now prefer the big screen with great cheap food and drink and friends. It is a big concern for the NFL as well.

I still think there is something about going into a state of the art stadium with the crowd and watching your local/favorite team play football with some pregame tailgating to boot that can't be matched with a TV. I mean baseball has to deal with 81 home games . . . we are talking 8 in the NFL. This is not an issue with a team that has success. Of course with Miami we're talking no playoff wins in 15 years and only one playoff appearance in the last 12 years. So yea, combined with the below standard stadium, continuous high prices and cheaper and arguably more desirable ambiance at home with an HDTV/AC/cheaper food and drinks and easier to get friends to chip in/come over . . . . you have a team that isn't getting it done on the field you are likely to see that transition and we have seen that transition over the last decade.

Take video games for example. Big companies like Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo make games and charge you $60 a game. Over the years, these once popular games have gotten ****ty sequels (Madden for example) yet those companies continue to keep the price at an elevated level and with the rise of IOS/Android (HDTV for NFL comparisons) . . . people are moving over to the cheaper route to get their gaming fix. Sure it isn't as good as getting a AAA title on a console (or being in a stadium for NFL comparisons), but at a price of "free" or "free 2 play (with in game transactions) . . . people are ok with disappointment in some of the games because it's not costing them anything to play them. Just like the Miami Dolphins have their hardcore fans that spend tons of money on the team, gaming consoles have their hardcore fans that spend money on their consoles/games but people are moving over to the cheaper alternatives at a rapid pace because it's easier on the wallet and that leads to understanding in disappointment.

It's the world we live in. The internet has made people more conscious consumers. Impulse buying has dropped off . . . if somebody sees something they like, they access the internet to see if they can find it cheaper online or check the reviews to see if it's any good.

The Dolphins (team and stadium) have not been a good product, so people have gone elsewhere to spend their money. And I can't blame them.

 

[Kdawg954]

Don't knock the marlins guys. They have managed to develop some really great players including a triple crown winner for other teams
You could make a very good line up of guys they let leave through their penny pinching management style.

i like Kdawgs idea of just blowing up the existing structure and building a modern stadium at the same location. After all Ross owns the land or has a long term lease if i'm not mistaken. Probably will not happen without tax money to help with the cost.

Marlins ownership is just . . . but when they traded all of those guys in the middle of the season I believe in 2012 . . . first thing I said was it looks bad now but watch this move be brilliant in like 2 or 3 years, and low and behold, the team is 1 game out of first place through the first 2 months of the season and this is with their star pitcher out for the season.

The big problem with blowing up Sunlife would be temporary residence for the Dolphins during the remodel. Not many options in that regard. FAU stadium in Boca probably can squeeze 35,000 (FIU under 30,000). Marlins park would be an interesting try, not sure how feasible it would be. But seriously, Ross needs to look into a new stadium, it would just change the perception of the entire thing rather than putting lipstick on top of lipstick on the same pig of a stadium.