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Martin could get his $15K back from Incognito and then some...

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Incognito's use of the N-word and his threats "to kill" would appear to qualify Martin for money damages at Incognito's expense.

It gets even better for Martin. The Florida law provides for triple damages -- yes, triple damages -- and would allow Martin to collect his legal fees from Incognito. These provisions could produce a significant jury verdict for Martin at Incognito's expense.

Martin's current salary is a bit more than $600,000. If he were to return to the NFL and enjoy a typical career as an offensive lineman, he would be expected to earn another $5 million or $6 million. If his career is worth $5 million, and Incognito's threats ended the career, Martin could collect as much as $15 million. Legal fees could be added to the jury award and push the total close to $17 million. Martin's career under this Florida law may be more valuable in court that it is on the field.

Martin must, of course, first sue and then prove all of this in front of a jury in South Florida. Incognito's text messages and voicemails would be powerful proof of the threats and intimidation. Like any other civil damages case involving loss of income, Martin would be able to prove his loss with expert witnesses and NFL officials.

Juries in South Florida are diverse and would be receptive to Martin's claim.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9...an-martin-sue-miami-dolphins-richie-incognito
 
Anyone here can tell me they want to **** in my mouth if I get millions out of it. Honest. Someone say they want to **** in my mouth!
 
Any judge that believes Jonathan Martin is worth 15mm should be removed from this seat on the the court. Incognito's lawyers could just bring in the game film and watch Martin's ass get walked to the QB 6-8 times a game. I'm not defending what Incognito did....but Martin was/is flat out garbage as a football player.
 
If the voicemails are in the tone they think they are (not angry, rage-filled screaming, but a playful tone), I don't think Martin will go this route. On some level, I really think Martin knows that Incognito isn't the reason he bolted the lunch room.

The timing really leads us to believe that the main driver of the breakdown was the position change and struggles on the field, and not bullying. The guy loses his position, and a week later all this happens and he resorts to dragging up 7 month old evidence to claim bullying drove him to quit? Doesn't quite add up with the timeline of events.
 
I read this and was about to post it.

What a DISGUSTING article via Lester Munson. This article and his thought process is what is wrong with America. That Martin could get 15 million dollars out of this is such incredible bull ****. Any judge with guts should take a suit like this and throw it out the window.

Jonathan Martin would be worse than a snake if he did this.

Again, I will say it: Incognito should have a big time lawyer on hand ready to slaughter all the inconsistencies that EVERYONE has witnessed with this guy. The pictures, the tweets and the impressions of people around the team.

BTW, I wonder how Lester forgot the Martin text that "did not blame you guys" that Incognito and Darlington confirms as such...how would that **** play in a court.

Incognito might have taken stuff way too far...fine. However, **** breathers like Lester Munson are more of threat to our lives. Suing for something like this? Perhaps, through communication and dialogue we can learn to get along with each other, but nope there are so many like Munson out there that take the explained route in the article above.

BTW, I love your state Floridians, but your state is messed up politically and legally...holy moses.
 
That ESPN summary of events is one way of looking at it... Let's try a scarier version.

There's no big money in a civil suit vs. one person, IMO. I think there's a huge reason to why rumors of management involvement are leaking now - in most states, management personnel can also be held accountable to discrimination, harassment, etc, and ultimately if the management is responsible, then the employer (miami Dolphins) can also be held accountable. Oh yeah, another damning piece to the story is that Richie is a co-leader of the team... I'm sure in a court of law he can be viewed as Management as well.

So now that we have discussed what could happen with co-conspirators (knowingly or not), the Martins now have a much larger pot to receive damages from.

What if Martin leaves the team? He can call it a hostile work environment or whatever. Then after other teams are unwilling to sign him due to the media **** storm or the plain fact that he has been rated the absolute worst starting offensive lineman in the league, his handlers cite that as a limitation to future earnings and pension. They can say that due to the harassment, Martin underperformed and was constantly held in torment.

Now that torment and or harassment could have possibly affected future earnings, what are those ceilings? Who's to say Johnathan Martin couldn't have excelled into a Jake Long or Ryan Clady talent? Who's to say that he couldn't play another twenty years? Who's to say he couldn't reach Peyton Manning level of endorsements?

Peyton makes over $10mm p/ yr endorsements, Ryan Clady $15mm p/ yr salary. Over 20 years, that's $500mm and we're not even talking about emotional distress yet.

By bringing charges to the team and or NFL, the Martin's can have a much deeper revenue pool to attack. And what if they actually win? We can see class action suits coming from all hazed rookies of the past.

Let's hope Martin really wants to play football and a safe place to work...
 
skaarsgard said:
That ESPN summary of events is one way of looking at it... Let's try a scarier version.

There's no big money in a civil suit vs. one person, IMO. I think there's a huge reason to why rumors of management involvement are leaking now - in most states, management personnel can also be held accountable to discrimination, harassment, etc, and ultimately if the management is responsible, then the employer (miami Dolphins) can also be held accountable. Oh yeah, another damning piece to the story is that Richie is a co-leader of the team... I'm sure in a court of law he can be viewed as Management as well.

So now that we have discussed what could happen with co-conspirators (knowingly or not), the Martins now have a much larger pot to receive damages from.

What if Martin leaves the team? He can call it a hostile work environment or whatever. Then after other teams are unwilling to sign him due to the media **** storm or the plain fact that he has been rated the absolute worst starting offensive lineman in the league, his handlers cite that as a limitation to future earnings and pension. They can say that due to the harassment, Martin underperformed and was constantly held in torment.

Now that torment and or harassment could have possibly affected future earnings, what are those ceilings? Who's to say Johnathan Martin couldn't have excelled into a Jake Long or Ryan Clady talent? Who's to say that he couldn't play another twenty years? Who's to say he couldn't reach Peyton Manning level of endorsements?

Peyton makes over $10mm p/ yr endorsements, Ryan Clady $15mm p/ yr salary. Over 20 years, that's $500mm and we're not even talking about emotional distress yet.

By bringing charges to the team and or NFL, the Martin's can have a much deeper revenue pool to attack. And what if they actually win? We can see class action suits coming from all hazed rookies of the past.

Let's hope Martin really wants to play football and a safe place to work...
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If he somehow won a case off this, that would be truly remarkable. I have never in my life seen a story blown so completely out of proportion. It is an incredible sight to behold.
 
templarwd said:
The NFL AND NFLPA will never allow this to get into the court system.
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There are three types of labor law attorneys in my opinion:

1) those chasing payday off others
2) those really wanting to make a change in labor practices and employment treatment... Plus fees
3) those who really want reform and take their cases pro-bono

And then we have an nfl son who feels he's been abused with a mother who specializes in this arena. Not only has her son been attacked (one she must feel to protect and has the means to do so) but mother Martin has also been (indirectly) assaulted by Incognito.

The dolphins and or nfl are not getting through this outside of a court room.
 
The world we live in... unbelievable...
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
I don't think he can sue the team. Collective bargaining makes that really difficult.
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The CBA doesn't trump the law. The Dolphins organization is still required by law to provide a non-hostile work environment. I don't see how the CBA changes that.
 
And what about Cog....If the 1/2 N..... crap don't fly quick Cog could file for an appeal & be right back on the team. Might not see the field but he'll be suited & cashing checks.
 
Can Cog sue Martin for being a cry baby?
 
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