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Martin, You're camp is getting SLOPPY

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You've had the media eating out of your hands all week, your mommy and daddy have been running the show, humiliating this team, Richie and this organization. But this latest move is so sloppy and wreaks of desperation. Did you just suddenly find a whole bunch more voicemails that you had forgotten about? Or are you trying to railroad the team for backing Richie and not you.

This is definitive proof that you're out for one thing and one thing only. Pathetic.

Edit: Ahhh Wrote You're instead of Your. That's the worst...
 
I have stayed neutral to both players until more and more was known. Today, after hearing Ryan and Hartline talk, I know all I need to know. Martin is the snake in all this. I never want him back on our team.
 
It seems to me as the days pass Cogs is getting more and more public support.

do you agree?

p.s I was just shocked to hear Charles Woodson openly say the "N word" on the NFL network
 
I have stayed neutral to both players until more and more was known. Today, after hearing Ryan and Hartline talk, I know all I need to know. Martin is the snake in all this. I never want him back on our team.
It truly is beginning to look like that. Martins hostile work environment claim is quickly losing steam.
 
Martin still doesnt need to be treated that way. first he is not a rookie. second, he shouldnt have to deal with that crap. Pretty much everyone agrees on that.

That is why I dont take a side here. There still may be more here than meets the eye. Richie was still in the wrong, even if he was joking.

We all knew the media would blow this thing up. Investigation pending.

conclusion: hazing is crap. pay your penalty....get back to football.

Martin is not a snake. He certainly has some issues and has a hard time dealing with being treated with disrespect. Thats really not hard to understand.

Just stay tuned because there could be much more from his camp but are waiting for investigation. We all have to wait. Until then, Martin is the bad man apparently.

He handled it wrong.
 
Martin still doesnt need to be treated that way. first he is not a rookie. second, he shouldnt have to deal with that crap. Pretty much everyone agrees on that.

That is why I dont take a side here. There still may be more here than meets the eye. Richie was still in the wrong, even if he was joking.

We all knew the media would blow this thing up. Investigation pending.

conclusion: hazing is crap. pay your penalty....get back to football.

Martin is not a snake. He certainly has some issues and has a hard time dealing with being treated with disrespect. Thats really not hard to understand.

Just stay tuned because there could be much more from his camp but are waiting for investigation. We all have to wait. Until then, Martin is the bad man apparently.

He handled it wrong.

Fudge martin he sucks , I'm glad he's off the team. Good riddance. I luv cogs but the man needs to tone it down just a bit as far as this rookie treatment bs. The media and espn r idiots throwing cogs under the bus without even finding out the truth. This is a fudging joke.
 
Martin still doesnt need to be treated that way. first he is not a rookie. second, he shouldnt have to deal with that crap. Pretty much everyone agrees on that.

That is why I dont take a side here. There still may be more here than meets the eye. Richie was still in the wrong, even if he was joking.

We all knew the media would blow this thing up. Investigation pending.

conclusion: hazing is crap. pay your penalty....get back to football.

Martin is not a snake. He certainly has some issues and has a hard time dealing with being treated with disrespect. Thats really not hard to understand.

Just stay tuned because there could be much more from his camp but are waiting for investigation. We all have to wait. Until then, Martin is the bad man apparently.

He handled it wrong.

If you admit he handled it wrong how is he not a snake? He's essentially trying to end cogs career and do some real damage to an entire NFL team.
 
Its very clear that Martin is after one thing. If he really wanted to resolve the issue and get back to football there would not be this kind of public opinion swaying by his lawyers. He is seriously mental.
 
IMO Martin has some serious emotional issues and didn't know how to handle them, riches antics put them over the top, so Martin used him as a scapegoat.

I think when Martin went to his lawyer parents about it, they acted to protect there son by flexing there lawyer muscles, and probably pushed him to turn this into something it didn't need to become.

Lawyers love to flex, my guess is in trying to protect him, and show off there own muscle, they got Martin involved in something he never wanted a part of. I truly don't believe Martin ever wanted anything like this to happen, once the dominos started falling it just got ugly.
 
Do you guys really think for one minute Martins evil mommy a woman who managed to become legal counsel for Toyota would take on the NFL and Miami Dolphins with a single voicemail? Think about it for a minute!
 
IMO Martin has some serious emotional issues and didn't know how to handle them, riches antics put them over the top, so Martin used him as a scapegoat.

I think when Martin went to his lawyer parents about it, they acted to protect there son by flexing there lawyer muscles, and probably pushed him to turn this into something it didn't need to become.

Lawyers love to flex, my guess is in trying to protect him, and show off there own muscle, they got Martin involved in something he never wanted a part of. I truly don't believe Martin ever wanted anything like this to happen, once the dominos started falling it just got ugly.
I agree to a point but the longer this goes on without him clarifying his position, the less likely it's true.
 
Do you guys really think for one minute Martins evil mommy a woman who managed to become legal counsel for Toyota would take on the NFL and Miami Dolphins with a single voicemail? Think about it for a minute!

There are definitely more voicemail messages, I'm sure.

But on the flip side, parents often make terrible decisions when their kids are involved, due to emotion. Seen it too many times. Heck, it's happened with my folks when I was younger. I think that if my read on the situation is correct (and it may damn well not be), the Martins and his agent have badly mangled this thing and only caused more harm to Jonathan.
 
Do you guys really think for one minute Martins evil mommy a woman who managed to become legal counsel for Toyota would take on the NFL and Miami Dolphins with a single voicemail? Think about it for a minute!

yeah i'm sure the martin camp has more ammo but i'm pretty damn confident so does the other side of this whole thing also...
 
It amazes me that all of you rush to the defense of Incognito. From my perspective, he is a bullying thug who harassed Jon Martin one too many times and the team is better off without him. Martin is the victim and has probable mental health issues.
 
It truly is beginning to look like that. Martins hostile work environment claim is quickly losing steam.

No it isnt. All this means is Martin felt pressured to laugh it off. The "pressured" part is key. Because feeling that sort of pressure is a sign of a hostile work environment.

Im getting a chuckle at everyone who thinks theyve found a silver bullet. Not even close. If a women laughs at harassment from her boss in front of her coworkers, she can still sue. Easily.

If this were to reach the courtroom(it wont), a judge would find the voicemails, the coaches instructions, and the hospital visit to have a lot more weight then Martin gritting his teeth and smiling when surrounded by his teammates.

Theres a reason why the Dolphins organization wanted everyone to keep quiet. Comments like the one Clabo made("shoulda been a man") are going to give Martin a lot more ammo then take away from him.
 
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