Marvez: OLB Abraham Wright is the breakout player to watch
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ckparrothead
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Marvez IMO a little guilty of projecting too much from pajama practices. Wright's a lightweight pass rusher, he's supposed to be quick enough to get into the backfield in pajama practices. He's 245 pounds going up against 330 pound monsters.
Wait until the pads come on and those 330 pound monsters are allowed to maul you proper. Then tell me Abraham Wright's a potential breakout star.
Wait until the pads come on and those 330 pound monsters are allowed to maul you proper. Then tell me Abraham Wright's a potential breakout star.
I read they were moving him to 3-4 Linebacker which is where they think he can make a huge impact
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"Huge impact" might be overstating it a bit. Mueller figured on him being depth at OLB and being a special teams performer.
I didnt realize how fast he is.. 4.66 40. We could def use that speed at Linebacker
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You mean like 6'1 239 lb Demco Ryan or 6'1 240 lb Lance Briggs? You know darn well in our 3-4 Wright will be a LB and not a DE.
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I beleive Mueller wanted him to develop like David Bowens. Start off on special teams and hopefully develop into a 3rd down pass rush specialist. But like you said let's wait till the pads go on to pass judgement. Marvez prediction is like saying Will Allen will lead the Nfl in tackles because he catches Ronnie Brown in a game of 2 hand touch all the time.
ckparrothead
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So you're saying that Abe Wright is playing ILB for us? What I know darn well is that as an OLB in the 3-4 (e.g. Jason Taylor, Joey Porter) you have a gigantic role in pass rush and will be going up against tackles on a regular basis. That's what I know darn well, and I also know that most of the praise coming out about Wright so far has been about his quickness into the backfield.
Comparing him to Lance Briggs (a WLB in a 4-3) and Demeco Ryans (an ILB) is not an accurate comparison.
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LOL. That's actually a good analogy. Kudos.
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I see, so a 6'1 239 lb WLB and a 6'1 240 MLB don't struggle to get to the QB through 330 lb Linemen, but a 6'3 245 OLB will? Just trying to figure this logic out. BTW, ever hear of a word called rotation? Obviously if Wright is really talented he will see the field and he will produce. He can either play or he can't. If he can, he'll play, that's just common sense and it has nothing to do with "330 lb monsters"!
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I think the same is happening with Lorenzo Booker...
A majority of it is about being able to put these players in position to make plays in the backfield when blitzing with help from the front 3 or 4 opening holes for these guys to blast throught he line. That is where their speed and quickness comes into play. Except for Houston, Chicago has, or had, before the offseason a great DL (for Briggs), we have a great DL (For Porter now), Pitt had a great DL (for Porter then)...Most of the fast, but undersized linebackers have good DL to help open holes for them to blast through gaps and get into the backfields
ckparrothead
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I'm sorry but if you believe that inside linebackers blitzing through gaps in the offensive line is the same as a 3-4 OLB going up against offensive tackles en route to the backfield, you just don't know your football very well.
His likely disappearance when pads come on has everything to do with his being only 245 pounds at the position he's playing, going up against 330 pound monsters at offensive tackle. Have other 245 pounders been able to do it? Sure. Jason Taylor's done it as a down lineman a long time and has recently done it at OLB in the 3-4. Joey Porter doesn't weight much more than 245, either. But generally, those are exceptions. GMs are looking for Shawne Merrimans, 260 pounds or better.
Last time I checked, Demeco Ryans and Lance Briggs had 4.5 sacks combined in 2006. They are inside linebackers and get sacks on blitzes when they are supposed to run through gaps in the offensive line. They're not supposed to take on 300+ pound offensive linemen and be expected to win that matchup consistently. They're expected to take on fullbacks and halfbacks and win the matchup as blitzers, but that's about it. As a 3-4 OLB (Jason Taylor, Joey Porter, Shawne Merriman, etc) you're going up against an OT most of the time because you get designated by the offensive line as a 4th pass rusher. The exception would be if you had both 3-4 OLBs rush the passer in a blitz, in which case the OL designates the more dangerous rusher as their 4th pass rusher and slides protection accordingly.
This is all very basic stuff here.
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Exactly my point, his 245 pound frame has nothing to do with what he will face.
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There is a whole lot of difference and I dont know why you are getting so uppity about something you clearly dont understand.
Abraham Wright is going to be asked to get into hand to hand combat on nearly every down. He's a DE/OLB. If it's a run down, odds are he's going to have to beat some kind of blocker, and if it's a passing down he's probabaly going to be jamming a TE or what have you. A weakside OLB or MLB in this system does NOT have to do that.
Abraham is on the small size for his position, but it's not terribly dramatic. But his job is predicated on what he's going to be able to do vs. guys bigger than him. He's not running around with guys absorbing blockers infront of him.
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