McDaniel on the hot seat

[Mello Yello]

Myself, being a fan since the early '70s, can also say I've seen the good and the bad (and that bad now far outweighs the good...its wasn't that way for decades). And I can also say that "success" in 2022/2023 was a facade. Those teams in the 80s/90s looked the part. They had an aura that said they could beat any given team, any given day. This team was lucky (or unlucky, depending on your perspective) to get into the playoffs two years in a row. Based on their performance in said playoffs, they overachieved.

The 2022/2023 rendition feasted on weak teams, and flopped against good teams. That's not opinion, its recorded fact.

They were a facade, and it starts and stems from the fraudulent HC strolling the sidelines (looking lost many times, especially when trying to get a play in after the previous play went badly). IMO, he's nowhere near being capable of being a successful HC.

I appreciate you sharing. I really do. While I think you're being unfairly hard on Miami, I can understand how someone could hold the opinion.

Most of the fans I know whose tenure reaches back as long as yours are essentially out on the Miami Dolphins today. Between the 1-15 season (which I think those fans took as extremely embarrassing) and the complete inability to settle on a HC / QB thereafter...those fans have all just kind of given up.

You can take pride in the fact that you're unusually loyal.

In their eyes, the Miami Dolphins franchise has become something entirely different than what it once was. To them, there is literally no connection between what the team was '70-'00 and what it is today, thus they do not feel compelled to root for the current incarnation of the team.

How can you be disloyal to something that is entirely different than what you used to love?

Ownership is long gone. Coaches are long gone. Rosters have turned over countless times. All the Hall of Fame guys are gone.

What is there to be disloyal to?

I think Miami fans are now a mix of those types (who basically see the modern Dolphins as a joke) and those of us who grew up in this post-2000 era who cannot (in good faith) claim any connection with the heyday of the team.

No matter how much they might want to, no fan under 40yo can lay claim to having been a fan of Shula or Marino or the '70s teams who existed before they were even born. Fact is, that's all mythology to us. We couldn't have it if we wanted it...which is why I don't post about it. That era of the team is not for me. It might be my team but those weren't my teams.

The only other place I think I disagree is that I don't have a lot of respect for anyone in the NFL. I think most "good" teams are 1-2 moves from rapidly falling into mediocrity. I think virtually all the "good" teams are over-hyped. Parity makes that the case.

While yeah, sure, the modern Dolphins suck...the standard in the NFL is super low these days and all success is fleeting. You might point to KC or Buffalo but they are literally 1 draft pick different from us. You can point to Pittsburgh but they suck as much as we do and haven't had a decent QB since Roethlisberger left 1,000 years ago. Tomlin's Playoff production is a joke. They're floundering in mediocrity just like us.

You can hate the Dolphins. I'm fine with that.

Just pour an equal share of disdain on the rest of the NFL who are basically running the same gameplan.

 

[djphinfan]

First, the CBA limits how teams can dictate practice in both pre and regular season.

Second, sudden and increased workloads are the number one cause of soft tissue injuries. A gradual approach should be adhered to in the preseason. And if players are lazy in the offseason, which coaches can’t control and it seems a lot of Dolphins players are, they stand a greater chance of being injured in the preseason.

Third, it’s been reported that during the regular season, McD and his coaches practice up to what the CBA allows in regard to tackling/hitting. They hit and tackle as much as the Steelers, Bills, etc.

lol this is the best one I’ve heard from you in protection mode

“Whatever we do we should not increase practice workload from last year in fear of soft tissue injuries”


LOL

Sorry Dano that was funny

 

[danmarino7051]

I appreciate you sharing. I really do. While I think you're being unfairly hard on Miami, I can understand how someone could hold the opinion.

Most of the fans I know whose tenure reaches back as long as yours are essentially out on the Miami Dolphins today. Between the 1-15 season (which I think those fans took as extremely embarrassing) and the complete inability to settle on a HC / QB thereafter...those fans have all just kind of given up.

You can take pride in the fact that you're unusually loyal.

In their eyes, the Miami Dolphins franchise has become something entirely different than what it once was. To them, there is literally no connection between what the team was '70-'00 and what it is today, thus they do not feel compelled to root for the current incarnation of the team.

How can you be disloyal to something that is entirely different than what you used to love?

Ownership is long gone. Coaches are long gone. Rosters have turned over countless times. All the Hall of Fame guys are gone.

What is there to be disloyal to?

I think Miami fans are now a mix of those types (who basically see the modern Dolphins as a joke) and those of us who grew up in this post-2000 era who cannot (in good faith) claim any connection with the heyday of the team.

No matter how much they might want to, no fan under 40yo can lay claim to having been a fan of Shula or Marino or the '70s teams who existed before they were even born. Fact is, that's all mythology to us. We couldn't have it if we wanted it...which is why I don't post about it. That era of the team is not for me. It might be my team but those weren't my teams.

The only other place I think I disagree is that I don't have a lot of respect for anyone in the NFL. I think most "good" teams are 1-2 moves from rapidly falling into mediocrity. I think virtually all the "good" teams are over-hyped. Parity makes that the case.

I don’t know who it’s tougher for… someone like me who has been a fan since 1979 (I was 5 and in first grade) and got to see 2 SB appearances (ended in heartache for me as a kid) and being relative from that point until just after Marino retired, or being born later on and never seeing the “good days”.

One thing is for sure, however, if the NFL starts to make me as unhappy and angry as it does to some around here I’ll just stop watching.

And, if the Dolphins ever do get it right again it will be that much sweeter because I hung on.

 

[Finsup1981]

lol this is the best one I’ve heard from you in protection mode

Whatever we do we should not increase ora rice workload from last year in fear of soft tissue injuries


LOL

Sorry Dano that was funny

Agree, the way we have been doing hasn’t been working and we’ve been giving it to these guys easy, so decreasing the workload I think is a bad idea

 

[danmarino7051]

lol this is the best one I’ve heard from you in protection mode

“Whatever we do we should not increase practice workload from last year in fear of soft tissue injuries”


LOL

Sorry Dano that was funny

You misunderstood my post. I’m calling out the players for not keeping their bodies in shape during the offseason. However, a gradual approach in the preseason is the best way.

 

[The Goat]

It’s also pure speculation to think everybody likes him!

Exactly.

 

[PhinFan1968]

I appreciate you sharing. I really do. While I think you're being unfairly hard on Miami, I can understand how someone could hold the opinion.

Most of the fans I know whose tenure reaches back as long as yours are essentially out on the Miami Dolphins today. Between the 1-15 season (which I think those fans took as extremely embarrassing) and the complete inability to settle on a HC / QB thereafter...those fans have all just kind of given up.

You can take pride in the fact that you're unusually loyal.

In their eyes, the Miami Dolphins franchise has become something entirely different than what it once was. To them, there is literally no connection between what the team was '70-'00 and what it is today, thus they do not feel compelled to root for the current incarnation of the team.

How can you be disloyal to something that is entirely different than what you used to love?

Ownership is long gone. Coaches are long gone. Rosters have turned over countless times. All the Hall of Fame guys are gone.

What is there to be disloyal to?

I think Miami fans are now a mix of those types (who basically see the modern Dolphins as a joke) and those of us who grew up in this post-2000 era who cannot (in good faith) claim any connection with the heyday of the team.

No matter how much they might want to, no fan under 40yo can lay claim to having been a fan of Shula or Marino or the '70s teams who existed before they were even born. Fact is, that's all mythology to us. We couldn't have it if we wanted it...which is why I don't post about it. That era of the team is not for me. It might be my team but those weren't my teams.

The only other place I think I disagree is that I don't have a lot of respect for anyone in the NFL. I think most "good" teams are 1-2 moves from rapidly falling into mediocrity. I think virtually all the "good" teams are over-hyped. Parity makes that the case.

While yeah, sure, the modern Dolphins suck...the standard in the NFL is super low these days and all success is fleeting. You might point to KC or Buffalo but they are literally 1 draft pick different from us. You can point to Pittsburgh but they suck as much as we do and haven't had a decent QB since Roethlisberger left 1,000 years ago. Tomlin's Playoff production is a joke. They're floundering in mediocrity just like us.

You can hate the Dolphins. I'm fine with that.

Just pour an equal share of disdain on the rest of the NFL who are basically running the same gameplan.

Don't hate 'em, will never hate 'em...but I can't stand the owner, GM and HC.

And as for pouring an equal share of disdain on the rest of the NFL, respectfully, IDGAF about the rest of the NFL. Tons of teams do stupid ****, I don't want my team being one of them.

 

[PhinFan1968]

They overachieved based on their performance in the playoffs?

Against the Bills, in Buffalo, with their 7th string rookie QB, and scrubs all over due to injury, they barely lost to the Bills by 3 points.


Against KC, in Tua’s first postseason game, in KC, and -20F they were beaten by a KC team who then went on to win against the Bills, in Buffalo, and the Ravens, in Baltimore. Then went on to win the SB. Based upon the Bills and Ravens play did they overachieve?

Overachieved, plain and simple. Weren't competitive against strong competition. I don't care about "barely lost" to Buffalo...you still ****ing lost!

The weather is the weather, every tough, strong, competitive team doesn't fold like a cheap suit when its cold.

You can make happy adjustments to your reasoning and expectations surrounding this team all you want, I won't.

And for the record, IDGAF what some other team does in the playoffs, why is that so hard to understand? When you're a contender and you are who you have been telling your fanbase you are, you don't care about the rest of the league...and we're not in that state at the moment. Fraudulent.

Talkin' 'bout "we're not afraid to talk Super Bowl around here..."

How about you beat some good ****ing teams, in the cold for good measure, then you can start talkin' about shooting for a championship. Pretenders.

 

[Finsup1981]

From Ben Solaks latest article, McDaniel again top of the list:

11 jobs with question marks​

Some of them are up for grabs. Others are on hot seats.

Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel

I believe two things very strongly. First, McDaniel's work building an offense around QB Tua Tagovailoa is some of the best offensive scheming in the league. Second, his offense fades against truly great defenses, in cold weather and on the road -- in short, playoff football. The Dolphins need a strong season from their defense, which could have an extremely inexperienced and shaky secondary following a Jalen Ramsey trade, to make a postseason push. Otherwise, it'll be four seasons without a playoff victory under McDaniel -- tough to defend.

Solak's 100 things to know for the 2025 NFL season ... 100 days out

There are 100 days until the 2025 NFL season kicks off. Let's celebrate with 100 big thoughts, predictions, stats and situations to watch.

www.espn.com

 

[Finsup1981]

This would obviously never happen but found this interesting in Solaks article:

For another year, the greatest non-quarterback competitive advantage in the NFL is that of Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores. He is unquestionably one of the 32 (if not 20) best coaches in football and a clear and obvious head coaching candidate, if not for the fact that he is suing the league.


I definitely think we would have had more success the past 3 years if Flores was the coordinator but obviously without the history he has with this team and Tua, but as a pure defensive coordinator the guy is incredible.

 

[danmarino7051]

From Ben Solaks latest article, McDabiel again top of the list:

11 jobs with question marks​

Some of them are up for grabs. Others are on hot seats.

Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel

I believe two things very strongly. First, McDaniel's work building an offense around QB Tua Tagovailoa is some of the best offensive scheming in the league. Second, his offense fades against truly great defenses, in cold weather and on the road -- in short, playoff football. The Dolphins need a strong season from their defense, which could have an extremely inexperienced and shaky secondary following a Jalen Ramsey trade, to make a postseason push. Otherwise, it'll be four seasons without a playoff victory under McDaniel -- tough to defend.

Solak's 100 things to know for the 2025 NFL season ... 100 days out

There are 100 days until the 2025 NFL season kicks off. Let's celebrate with 100 big thoughts, predictions, stats and situations to watch.

www.espn.com

The Steelers haven’t won a playoff game in 7 years. They are 0-4 during that time. They are 2-5 on the road in the last 10 years… losing their last 3 straight while away.

Hurts and Siriani are 0-2 on the road in the playoffs.

Harbaugh with Jackson are 1-2 on the road in the playoffs.

The Bills haven’t won a road playoff game in the entire time that McDermott and Josh Allen have been there. They are 0-4.

Tom Brady is one game over .500 on the road in the playoffs at 6-4. 80% of his playoff games were at home or on a neutral field for the SB. He’s 30-9 at home.

It’s almost like it’s tough for any team to win in the postseason while away. So why is it only Tua and/or McD are the only ones that must do it to be considered good?

 

[E30M3]

Eagles’ Reed Blankenship weighs in on Vic Fangio-Dolphins drama

After an incredible run with the Eagles in 2024, Reed Blankenship weighs in on the drama between Vic Fangio and the Dolphins in 2023.

sports.yahoo.com

“Whatever was said in Miami, that’s their locker room. Our locker room is completely different, I believe in my opinion. We’ve got guys that liked to be coached and like to be held accountable, and obviously that shows on the field. We’re a young group, but we understand if we want to win the big things we’ve got to be coached hard.”

https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/s/qeP42mw00O

 

[PhinFan1968]

The Steelers haven’t won a playoff game in 7 years. They are 0-4 during that time. They are 2-5 on the road in the last 10 years… losing their last 3 straight while away.

Hurts and Siriani are 0-2 on the road in the playoffs.

Harbaugh with Jackson are 1-2 on the road in the playoffs.

The Bills haven’t won a road playoff game in the entire time that McDermott and Josh Allen have been there. They are 0-4.

Tom Brady is one game over .500 on the road in the playoffs at 6-4. 80% of his playoff games were at home or on a neutral field for the SB. He’s 30-9 at home.

It’s almost like it’s tough for any team to win in the postseason while away. So why is it only Tua and/or McD are the only ones that must do it to be considered good?

How many home games have they earned and won? Those teams and the Dolphins are NOT the same.

 

[Rev Kev]

McD and Grier BOTH deserve to be on the hot seat