McLaurin: Young could be better than Bosa brothers

[jimthefin]

care to wager on that? Gholston was so bad , the Jets knew the first day of practice they we’re screwed.

Young is going to be a 10+ sack guy year after year, no way does he resemble Gholston other than alma mater.

 

[EJay]

Bosa has already proven he can do in the NFL.....Young hasn't played a down in the NFL yet. People need to slow down here.

Why do they need to slow down if they believe their own eyes?

Lots of folks, myself included, were excited about Nick Bosa before well he was drafted and hadn’t already proved it yet in the NFL. That’s worked out pretty well, hasn’t it?

Hell, I half jokingly stated that I thought Bosa should have been considered for the Heisman his Junior year — despite missing most the season — because of the stark difference between the Buckeyes defense when he played versus how awful they were the entire time he was out.

If you believe you see it in a player, or even if you don’t, why shouldn’t you say it loudly and proudly? Isn’t that the point of this site? Time will ultimately decide right and wrong.

 

[EJay]

instead of the laughable pretension that Young was continually setting things up for others:

Laughable pretension? That’s rich.

For someone that purports himself to be so experienced and knowledgeable, I gotta ask ... do you actually watch the games? And are you also fully aware that Dabo Swinney‘s team game planned specifically for Chase Young all month leading up to the game? But, yeah, sure, he didn’t have much of an impact. IDK how many players you think other teams alter their game plan for, but it doesn‘t happen for everyone.

At 3:55 of the video below, the Shaun Wade targeting play.

Forget the outcome and pay attention to how the sack opened up. It’s an initial 3-man rush with the 4th man, Wade, coming on a delayed blitz from the slot on the opposite side of the field from Young. Young is the only pass rusher double-teamed on the play and is eventually blocked by three different players. First he is blocked by the right tackle and chipped on the outside by the RB Etienne. Then the right guard, with nobody to block, helps to the inside.

All while Wade comes in completely scot-free because (a) Lawrence didn’t identify him as a free rusher and (b) because the offense was understandably preoccupied with ensuring Young was blocked by 3 different players. With a less impactful player than Young playing DE, Etienne likely wouldn‘t have been cheating to the right and focused on the DE and instead would have been in position to pick up a free blitzer.

So Young‘s presence clearly helped open up that play for Wade.

At 8:28 Young‘s outside pressure forces Lawrence to step up in the pocket which allows Hamilton to make the play up the middle.

At 8:48 Young just misses a strip sack but speeds up Lawrence’s clock on the very play that should have resulted in the fumble return TD.

At 9:42 Young lines up inside between the right guard and right tackle with Baron Browning lined up on the outside of the tackle. The right tackle hesitates for just an instant while clearly paying attention to Young which allows Browning to speed rush past him. Again, another sack setup by Chase Young’s mere presence.

Those are just a couple examples. And by no means was he playing against a bad team.
We're there bad plays by Chase in that game? Yes. Nobody is perfect. But there is still clear evidence that he made an impact on the field with all the attention Clemson paid to him. That's the point that keeps getting challenged.

If you watch the entire video, you’ll see how many times Clemson (a) runs the play away from Young (b) runs quick passes such as bubble screen and/or 3 step drops (c) runs QB option at Young (d) doesn’t block him at all to take advantage of his aggressiveness and/or to try to keep him indecisive and guessing so he can’t rush up field with impunity.

That’s called game planning. And Clemson did a good job of it. But it also highlights how impactful a player Young is. Because Clemson’s method of offensive attack was heavily influenced by Young’s presence on the field. They knew they couldn‘t just line up and run their offense the typical way they’d want to. They had to alter their offensive attack to ensure Young didn’t dominant the game. So that’s what they did. Best example of it all were the designed QB runs, which is something they normally wouldn’t do.

Not only is that making a huge impact well before the game even begins, Chase still managed to make an impact on the field despite all the countermeasures Clemson employed, as evidenced by the plays I called out. And there were more than just those.

You‘ll also find numerous examples of the same from the Michigan game and the Wisconsin re-match. They did exactly what Clemson did with regard to altering their normal game plans. Wisconsin clearly learned their lesson from the first game when he had 4 sacks. They doubled, chipped, ran at him, quick passes, etc. Yet he still was able to draw attention that allowed others to make plays.

In summary, you’re incorrect to say it’s a laughable pretension.

 

[EJay]

A few more call outs from that Clemson game:



And Willie McGinest might know a few things about the sport.

 

[EJay]

Here's end zone footage from the first OSU-Wisconsin game. Shows Jonathan Taylor and Chase Young.



And the Clemson game:

 

[DPhinz_DPhinz]

Nick Bosa took off a damn season...

That should have been a red flag 100x worse than Young taking off the combine.