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Merged-Alabama, media won't let it go/Saban to coach college next year ?

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The longer this job remains open, the better the chance Saban could be the guy to fill it. His NFL season ends Dec. 31, and his Miami Dolphins are a long shot to reach the playoffs.

If you believe the statements from both Saban and Spurrier denying interest in the Alabama job are necessarily the last words on the subject, I believe you've never paid close attention to a coaching change before.
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i don't understand exactly why they think he'd want the job in the first place...alabama isn't exactly a power house...and he left LSU (who was a power house) to come here...
 
They won't let it go for the same reasons we wouldn't let it go when the rumors started flying about Saban coming to Miami.
 
SCall13 said:
They won't let it go for the same reasons we wouldn't let it go when the rumors started flying about Saban coming to Miami.
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Except Saban coming to the Dolphins was much stronger since it was well known that Saban was interested in the NFL. Also the fact that it was publicly known that Saban had met with Wayne about it. Lets not forget the fact that he had interviewd with NFL teams in previous years.

This time, Saban gave them a solid "NO" and that he is on the level of coaching he has been working towards. Why go backwards?
 
Saban4prez said:
i don't understand exactly why they think he'd want the job in the first place...alabama isn't exactly a power house...and he left LSU (who was a power house) to come here...
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Historically Alabama is the better program, it's fallen on hard times but it is a big time job- bigger than LSU.
 
Crypt Keeper said:
Except Saban coming to the Dolphins was much stronger since it was well known that Saban was interested in the NFL. Also the fact that it was publicly known that Saban had met with Wayne about it. Lets not forget the fact that he had interviewd with NFL teams in previous years.

This time, Saban gave them a solid "NO" and that he is on the level of coaching he has been working towards. Why go backwards?
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I don't think he'll pull a bail out on us at this time. He's had it tough in Miami, and his hardass approach to the media has caused them to pick him apart to some degree. Taking a step back would be like admitting defeat, and Nick doesn't look like one to admit defeat.
 
opfinistic said:
I don't think he'll pull a bail out on us at this time. He's had it tough in Miami, and his hardass approach to the media has caused them to pick him apart to some degree. Taking a step back would be like admitting defeat, and Nick doesn't look like one to admit defeat.
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I think had you kept losing and had 2-3 wins right now maybe he would have left but I'll be very suprised if he leaves now.
 
I know a thing or two...

about the SEC, this job opening and Saban. Let me tell you, it's total BS.

These guys claim to this day that they turned down Bill Parcells in 2003 as well as Tom Coughlin, so it's in characture.

But the administration is under heavy, heavy pressure because the firing of Shula is playing so badly both in the SEC and the national press, and now that at least 3 coaches have publicly refused it (Saban, Spurrier, Leavitt), they look even more clueless. Spurrier actually taunted them and said he wouldn't take it for $10 million a year. But just as in the case of Saban the boosters and "sources" within the AD are telling the fans that Spurrier is actually still talking to them privately, LOL.

These things in the press are a combination of delusion on the part of the fans, and spin out of the administration to ease the pressure, buy time and make the job look more desirable while they scramble to find someone.

As far as Saban, the best evidence you could get was his statement Monday. The guy is mindful of what he says and his image. First of all, for him to come out and actually say that they should not have fired the guy, is the type of opinion he doesn't often express about the decision of others in those types of matters unless he feels very strongly about it. Secondly, if there were any chance whatsoever that he would consider the job not only now but some other time in the future, he would not risk alienating himself with the fans or administration by saying that, that is not his style. He did not have to say anything about Shula and Bama's decision, he chose to do that.

For Bama, the delusion will give way in the next few days to resignation. The highest profile guy they have a shot at is Rich Rodriguez at WVU, and that's no sure thing. Most likely they will pick from a list headlined by Steve Kragthorpe at Tulsa and Paul Johnson at Navy, an NFL coordinator is a possibility but doubtful. There's even a chance that they end up with a college coordinator such as LSU's Jimbo Fisher, but they will be desperate to find someone with HC experience. But no matter what, it won't be Nick Saban. I'll take that bet all day long.

And despite that article, the more connected Bama boosters are conceding that he never had an interest.
 
nyjunc said:
I think had you kept losing and had 2-3 wins right now maybe he would have left but I'll be very suprised if he leaves now.
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Five years ago that would have been the case, no doubt, on the back of their history under the Bear and their 1992 title under Stallings. However, they have not won the SEC in 7 years, their chief rival (Auburn) has made great strides in state and become a top national program, and so they now split the state recruiting base, compared to LSU where they have the state to themselves.

Bama has great facilities, but LSU even has an edge there after Saban's building spree.

The biggest reason their job has fallen in stature is the administration and boosters. They are dysfunctional and the job is seen as a coaching graveyard in the profession. The new coach will be the 5th in a 6 year period. They just fired a guy a year after a 10 win season and a New Year's Day Bowl win, they have a very young roster and freshman QB. Worst of all, he took the job when they were on probation, got them through that very respectably (it ended in January) and now he is gone after a 6-6 season.

They may get someone good if they are lucky, but I doubt it. There is probably not a coach in America that would take their job over LSU's right now that doesn't have Bama ties. Saban is very familiar with the Bama situation.
 
GeauxTigers said:
about the SEC, this job opening and Saban. Let me tell you, it's total BS.

These guys claim to this day that they turned down Bill Parcells in 2003 as well as Tom Coughlin, so it's in characture.

But the administration is under heavy, heavy pressure because the firing of Shula is playing so badly both in the SEC and the national press, and now that at least 3 coaches have publicly refused it (Saban, Spurrier, Leavitt), they look even more clueless. Spurrier actually taunted them and said he wouldn't take it for $10 million a year. But just as in the case of Saban the boosters and "sources" within the AD are telling the fans that Spurrier is actually still talking to them privately, LOL.

These things in the press are a combination of delusion on the part of the fans, and spin out of the administration to ease the pressure, buy time and make the job look more desirable while they scramble to find someone.

As far as Saban, the best evidence you could get was his statement Monday. The guy is mindful of what he says and his image. First of all, for him to come out and actually say that they should not have fired the guy, is the type of opinion he doesn't often express about the decision of others in those types of matters unless he feels very strongly about it. Secondly, if there were any chance whatsoever that he would consider the job not only now but some other time in the future, he would not risk alienating himself with the fans or administration by saying that, that is not his style. He did not have to say anything about Shula and Bama's decision, he chose to do that.

For Bama, the delusion will give way in the next few days to resignation. The highest profile guy they have a shot at is Rich Rodriguez at WVU, and that's no sure thing. Most likely they will pick from a list headlined by Steve Kragthorpe at Tulsa and Paul Johnson at Navy, an NFL coordinator is a possibility but doubtful. There's even a chance that they end up with a college coordinator such as LSU's Jimbo Fisher, but they will be desperate to find someone with HC experience. But no matter what, it won't be Nick Saban. I'll take that bet all day long.

And despite that article, the more connected Bama boosters are conceding that he never had an interest.
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Nice post.

While he probably won't go to bama, I am going to be worried that this is going to become a yearly thing. I am going to hate seeing Saban's name every time a position opens.
 
Crypt Keeper said:
Nice post.

While he probably won't go to bama, I am going to be worried that this is going to become a yearly thing. I am going to hate seeing Saban's name every time a position opens.
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now right there, you do have a point. As long as we're not winning championships theres always going to be speculation that sabans looking to run back to the college game. However, im going to put it like this. there basing saban off of spurrier and Davis, both of them were successful college coaches who ran back after unsuccessful pro careers. The only difference between those two and saban is this, Davis and spurrier both got ran out of cleveland and washington respectively, Saban will not be run out of miami. atleast not yet. Sabans shown more as a pro coach then either of those two combined already in just his second year.
 
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I've got a good one here... SABAN as new Miami Hurricane coach next year, wouldn't that be bigger than Alabama?
 
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