byroan said:
Yesterday's game. Prove me wrong. Gus had a good game. Chambers dropped at least 5 passes. Don't try to make any excuses either.
QB talent looks fine to me. Not good enough? How about actual game tape?
http://rapidshare.de/files/7647456/chambersdoh.wmv.html
You've already been proved wrong yet you continue to ignore it. Did Chambers save you from a burning building?
Well, you really are arrogant, aren't you? Tell you what - if you can tell me what I said, where I said it, and where the ensuing proof of me being wrong is, I'll buy you a beer.
I was talking about Hines Ward and Charlie Batch. You spouted off something about 8 catches for 124 yards and a TD; I showed you what actually happened in the game.
Your one clip there, I can assure you, was completely inexcusable. I assume Chambers had already broken off his route to be where he was, but the throw was perfect and Chambers should've had it. No excuses there.
Let's go through the clip one by one.
#1 - Good coverage, and Chambers made a diving grab for it. I am not convinced he could have had that ball, nor was I at the time. The clip isn't even clear that he got his hands on it. The official scoring on that was a pass defended for Hobbs, by the way.
#2 - Coverage wasn't bad, but the throw was good given the situation and Chambers should've caught that. Right through his hands. Easy catch? No, not when you're diving, but if it hits you like that you need to catch the ball.
#3 - Chambers was open and should've caught this ball, though he's lucky he was going down because it probably would've ended his career otherwise. This is where I speculate the official drop was. Good pass by Frerotte.
#4 - Tight coverage, and for that ball to have a chance at being caught it needs to be leading him. Samuel got a pass defended here, and with good reason. I'm not convinced Chambers even got his hands on it. If he did, it looked like Samuel may have swatted it out.
#5 - Underthrown ball. This one didn't need to be low - it should've been leading him and higher. It was close enough to be caught, but this was not a perfect throw nor was it an easy catch. This ball, had it actually been caught, looked like it would've been a coach's challenge. You can't tell me that's a definite catch.
#6 - Tight coverage, and the ball again should've been leading him more. How you can tell me when Chambers dives and ends up facing the line of scrimmage with his body flat on the ground means he somehow could've easily caught the ball is beyond me.
I never said it was a good game for Chambers. I'm saying that most of those passes were very difficult if not impossible to catch, as three of them were passes defended. I'll assume that Chambers on a good day - and any "elite" receiver - would've likely hauled in two of those or maybe three.
Tell me I'm making excuses - I really don't care. This is what happens when the team loses between four and five winnable games. We sit here pointing fingers and placing blame. We're looking for reasons at our best players because we don't want to believe the obvious.