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Dolphins | Planning to set up private workout with Matthews
Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:16:32 -0700

Ed Thompson, of Scout.com, reports the Miami Dolphins are setting up a private workout with Southern California LB Clay Matthews this month.


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I told you they like Matthews and alot have said if he is there at 25, Miami wont pass. There is gonna be a crap load of talent at 25, my thought is Miami will go with BPA. Whether it is Matthews, Smith or Nick we wont know until draft day.
 
I want Matthews, but I also want Sean Smith. DraftCountdown has us with Matthews at 25 and Smith at 44. To me that what be one hell of a draft. The Dolphins are also said to like Cody Brown from Connecticut and Darius Butler.
 
Greyboy said:
I pray to god that we don't draft this dud in the first round.

Clay is vastly overrated as an OLB prospect. He only started his senior season, and most of his snaps were taken as a stand up DE (Cushing, Rey, and Maiva were the 3 LB's and SS Kevin Ellison lined up as a traditional LB more often then Clay). Almost all of his highlights are of him putting pressure on the QB (which he's not bad at, but O-lineman were more focused on their other LB's coming into games), but none of him in coverage or 5 yards off the LOS. On the rare occasion where he was put into coverage, he never stood out compared Rey, Cushing, Maiva.

People love him for his motor, heart, and pedigree, but IMO he's one of those USC prospects that benefited from the immense talent surrounding him. He had a great combine (but who cares, so did Vernon Gholston), but on the field, he's raw in coverage and not nearly as good as Rey or Cushing against the run.

If he was just a normal guy and didn't have his father, and went to another school instead of USC with their defense, he'd be looked upon as a mid/late round prospect and nothing more.

Some team is going to make a mistake drafting this guy too high. And I hope it's not Miami.. There are many more talented players early in this draft. He looks like another Bobby Carpenter.
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I've never been a fan of this pedigree stuff. If it were true how come Jarrett Payton is not leading the league in rushing.
 
I always thought the same thing about Matthews. An over rated prospect that is going on the pure fact that he's a USC LB. Excuse me while I puke. Granted these other LB's from USC look more than capable but Matthews does strike me as a overgrown roider who happened to have a good year. Personally I believe their are other players I would take a chance on before him with the 25th pick in the draft.

Clay Matthews= Bobby Carpenter
 
I really like Matthews, but some say he is Raw. Personally it is the same discussion we had about Jake Long last year some thought he was LT others said he was RT. When you draft players you always taking a chance. I think Matthews is ready and would be an excellent OLB.

Clay Matthews
Height: 6'3 1/8" / Weight: 240
40: 4.67 / Vertical: 35.5" / Broad: 10'1" / Shuttle: 4.18
And again, below is what Conquest Chronicles has to say about Matthews:
Clay Matthews has been the biggest surprise this season. Matthews is a former walk-on who was under the radar at the start of his senior season. He got his start on special teams in freshman season and he took off from there. He comes from a solid football tree where his father (Clay Jr.), grandfather (Clay Sr.) and uncle (Bruce) all played in the NFL.
Mathews is in that "high speed, low drag" style of play where he just continues to move. He is a tough, versatile player that can play either outside LB or DE. His ability on special teams is very impressive, as he makes impact plays and always finds the ball carrier. He can play in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme. Because of his great range and instincts he can play all 3 LB positions.
He is disruptive on the ends and makes a lot of plays in the backfield. Very opportunistic and always around the ball. He too can be too aggressive at times and will have match-up problems in coverage. Less than stellar hands/ball skills. Because of his speed he is a great blitzer but he will try run around blocks instead of through them.
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http://www.thephinsider.com

Obviously I think the guy has lots of upside, great work ethic and awesome predigree, but those things dont help you if you can´t transfer them to an NFL Field. I have to disagree with you Greyboy on one thing the kid is not a dud, he has all the stuff to be a great OLB. He was a walk on and look how far he has gotten. Mayock has him as one of the best Pass Rushing OLB in the Draft and has said he could start right away.
 
Greyboy said:
I pray to god that we don't draft this dud in the first round.

Clay is vastly overrated as an OLB prospect. He only started his senior season, and most of his snaps were taken as a stand up DE (Cushing, Rey, and Maiva were the 3 LB's and SS Kevin Ellison lined up as a traditional LB more often then Clay). Almost all of his highlights are of him putting pressure on the QB (which he's not bad at, but O-lineman were more focused on their other LB's coming into games), but none of him in coverage or 5 yards off the LOS. On the rare occasion where he was put into coverage, he never stood out compared Rey, Cushing, Maiva.

People love him for his motor, heart, and pedigree, but IMO he's one of those USC prospects that benefited from the immense talent surrounding him. He had a great combine (but who cares, so did Vernon Gholston), but on the field, he's raw in coverage and not nearly as good as Rey or Cushing against the run.

If he was just a normal guy and didn't have his father, and went to another school instead of USC with their defense, he'd be looked upon as a mid/late round prospect and nothing more.

Another thing is his face has changed incredibly recently, resembling a classic heavy steroid user. The guy's jaw has grown immensely, as well as his forehead. His face has aged incredibly over the past 2 years with clear signs of heavy steroid use. His face changes are just not normal at his age.. Add the incredible amount of size he has put on over the last year and a half. He looks like a guy who just pumped himself up way too much over a very short period of time and will never be able to sustain it- and will end up like Tony Mandarich.

Some team is going to make a mistake drafting this guy too high. And I hope it's not Miami.. There are many more talented players early in this draft. He looks like another Bobby Carpenter.
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I give everything you said zero credibility becuase you just copied this post from another forum... which tells me you dont know anything about Clay Mathews
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFi0o8GCM9c

Watch this video and then tell me Matthews sucks and everything he did was cause of the talent around him. Matthews was an undersize DE in college yet he played with a crazy *** motor and got to the QB. I think the kid can play in this league imediately.
 
FinAtic8480 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFi0o8GCM9c

Watch this video and then tell me Matthews sucks and everything he did was cause of the talent around him. Matthews was an undersize DE in college yet he played with a crazy *** motor and got to the QB. I think the kid can play in this league imediately.
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half of this video is based on two plays where he stunts inside... designated play to bring a speed rusher one on one against phone booth blockers such as the center (most of the time) or the guards.... he's got speed, he's relentless, but this is the product of the scheme most of all IMO...

he's good, but that tape says nothing
 
i think he's the only player i can compare to another without hesitation

clay matthews = bobby carpenter

a tough, disciplined, complete, football player with no real position
 
I think everyone keeps comparing Clay Matthews to Bobby Carpenter cause they look alike. Carpenter played LB in College and I think he played. Matthews is a DE/OLB. The only reason you guys are comparing is because they look alike which is sad.

Two completly different players. Here is another thing Matthews is alot faster than Carpenter. Carpenter was projected as a ILB in the pros where Matthews has plenty of speed to play OLB.
 
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