Definitely Congressman material.....
You actually believe what you just said ? OMG
No we should all believe what you said. I personally cant believe half the stuff that comes out of you.
Definitely Congressman material.....
You actually believe what you just said ? OMG
I guess if we all thoughts like you things would be great, right?
No we should all believe what you said. I personally cant believe half the stuff that comes out of you.
I understand my friend...
You have a disease..........
I'm a Raiders fan and I got to say I don't get it....
Obviously Parcells certainly knows what he is doing, but this one makes little sense to me... I'm sure people will point to the uncertainty/coaching of the Raiders over the past few years as the primary reason Grove didn't live up to expectations, which is fair to a certain point, but where Grove struggled the most is in one on one situations... Especially when matched up against 34 nose tackles... That's just basic football... We went out and got Jeremy Newberry a couple of seasons ago primarily because we wanted a pivot with more on the ball strength...
In fact, I expected Grove to sign with another zone blocking team rather than a power based team like the Phins are now because he struggled moving bigger players and the ZBS seems to play to his strengths better... I know the plan is to bulk him up, but I question the logic of adding weight to a guy a year removed from microfracture knee surgery...
I'm sure he'll work out for you guys as while he has his shortcomings, he certainly is a team first high effort guy when healthy... Like I said, the Tuna knows what the hell he is doing and obviously has a plan in place... The irony here is there was a groundswell for the Raiders to draft Sampson Satele because Grove wasn't getting it done at center and had actually looked better playing guard... Maybe the expectations were too high among Raider fans as Grove was replacing an uber physical center in Barrett Robbins... Anyway I hope Jake works out in Miami...
Good luck, thanks for taking yourselves out of the Alex Mack hunt and be sure to put foot to *** against the Pats twice this year... I hate those *******s...
hmmm 6 million/year for Grove (29) or 7.5 million/year for Brown (25).
Not the smartest savings if you ask me
If you want this to be a pissing contest ... I am think I am out since you have nothing to challenge the fact that you and a few others are knee jerker on a signing that may have been too costly, but have NO idea what will happen with it. He may be great or he may be a flop, but none of us know and those who think they know 100% for sure are delusional. peace
Grove isn't getting 6mil a year read the first page of the thread completly....:up:
By the same token, please offer Josh McDaniels and Scott Pioli a warm AFC West welcome (Not only do we hate the patriots, but anyone that has ever been a part of that organization!)
Roman529 said:Maybe the reason Grove was injured a lot and not quite the Center he was at Va Tech, is because of the constant coaching turnover in Oakland?
All the people crying about this signing will be swinging off of Grove's jollies when he dominates Wilfork and then beats him up after the whistle