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One suprising high point - The O=Line

Did anyone see late in the game, the stat on the offensive line?

Times sacked 0
Hit 0
Rushed 0

They did a great job protecting gus, even if most throws were short drops/quick patterns. Great job by the Oline, but gus couldn't captilize but once :(
 
Yeahh KUDOS to the O-line. They did a really good job today!
 
The point is that Carr WOULD DO BETTER with this line than the one in Texas. As long as we have the pieces in place next year for a QB to come in and succeed, I'll be damn happy...
 
I can't blast the OL for their play today because they did what they were asked to do, but I still believe the line is a weakness for this team. They can hold the defenders off for 3 step drops and short passes, but I think we don't see long passes precisely because they can't be trusted to hold their blocks for that long.
 
Jaj said:
The point is that Carr WOULD DO BETTER with this line than the one in Texas. As long as we have the pieces in place next year for a QB to come in and succeed, I'll be damn happy...
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I don't think Carr would do that much better with this line unless he began only throwing short passes and committed to throwing the ball away when pressured. This line is still a problem for the team.
 
Hudson Houck. It's all Hudson Houck.
 
I would agree with JimmyJames assessment. I love what they did today and hope they can continue doing that, but by no means should we get carried away and start calling them one of the best in the league or anything. They are still middling rank at best.
 
Jimmy James said:
I don't think Carr would do that much better with this line unless he began only throwing short passes and committed to throwing the ball away when pressured. This line is still a problem for the team.
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I don't agree at all with that, because his mentality would change knowing he's got much better backfield options, his line is atleast somewhat better, and his receiving core is still a bit better than in Houston. Besides we have plenty of money to spend it seems and a good pick to help him.

Even Patrick Ramsey would be great in this system. The point is we need a more accurate QB with an arm. This offensive scheme is great regardless of that stupid call by Linehan, because it's simple and can dominate.
 
Forget David Carr. One possibility that is commonly escaping his supporters is that even if he was good and had potential, his stay in Houston may have permanently disfigured him as a pro quarterback. Think about that, he developed his QB skills under an offense and offensive line like he has right now. That's like having a kid grow up in a violent home and hoping he doesn't end up violent as he grows up.
 
Jaj said:
I don't agree at all with that, because his mentality would change knowing he's got much better backfield options, his line is atleast somewhat better, and his receiving core is still a bit better than in Houston. Besides we have plenty of money to spend it seems and a good pick to help him.

Even Patrick Ramsey would be great in this system. The point is we need a more accurate QB with an arm. This offensive scheme is great regardless of that stupid call by Linehan, because it's simple and can dominate.
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My primary concern is that people don't start overestimating the quality of this line. It would be a mistake to bring in a David Carr or Patrick Ramsey unless the effort is also made to improve the line. Both of them love to hold the ball while trying to make a play -- why opt for that sort of QB when you'll only frustrate him? Carr might be less frustrated than in Texas, but he still won't be able to play at his peak potential.
 
What in the world is that supposed to mean CK? Your saying no QB ever becomes better after losing his confidence once? He did just fine today, he was very efficient, threw no picks against atleast a decent D in the Jags...
To even question that David Carr would be a big upgrade is absurd :lol:

Frerrote has no excuse, he just can't throw a damn football...
 
Jaj said:
What in the world is that supposed to mean CK? Your saying no QB ever becomes better after losing his confidence once? He did just fine today, he was very efficient, threw no picks against atleast a decent D in the Jags...
To even question that David Carr would be a big upgrade is absurd :lol:

Frerrote has no excuse, he just can't throw a damn football...
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No, I am saying that I and many NFL scouts feel that it is possible to damage a quarterback by playing him too early and by continuing to keep him in a situation in which he probably will not succeed. You're not just arguing with me on this one. Many scouts and personnel people feel the same way. Many QBs have gone down in flames in their careers when they might have had a chance to develop into decent pros had they been inserted in the right situation. Rarely have those quarterbacks only played on one team, though. Many of them WERE given second chances, but could not overcome what happened early in their careers. Think outside the box, it is not just a confidence issue. It is a learning issue. As a practical example, the ticking clock in Carr's head probably now sounds an alarm after 2 or 3 seconds of holding the ball, when in a better offense it might need to start ringing more at 4 seconds.
 
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