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Could this have been the deciding factor for us not picking Quinn at number 9. I think if anyone knew Quinn it had to be our new QB coach Terry Shea who worked with Quinn in his preparation for the draft.

I know some of you are befuddled by the non-pick as I was but after a little thought and with the selection of John Beck, I felt a little better for not picking Quinn. Whether he will be good in the NFL is uncertain but I have faith in our scouts and Randy Mueller. After all Mueller does have a good track record when drafting QB's late...
 
Thank you! don't you think if our qaurterback coached worked with him extensively pre-draft and we still passed on him, that is means something?!? All these Quin-fanatics are getting caught up in media perception. Quin sucks. Bottom line. Who else was there worth our pick other than Patrick willis? All those ppl on espn are just mad cuz we didn't take the Qb "they" wanted us to pick! F em. DC will b behind center, and we have booker, chambers, and now Ginn, and Hagan as a 4th reciever. We have Brown, Ricky, and now booker in the back field. We just need to shore up that line!
 
Yea I'm very interested to hear the thinking/reasoning behind this. I wonder if we ever will? But it has to raise some questions when it seemed like such a match made in heaven, everything pointed to Miami and it didn't happen. We all thought bringing Shea aboard pointed to Quinn but apparently it did just the opposite. I don't think there was necessarily something wrong with Quinn, they probably just didn't think that Quinn was much better value then Beck at 40. Very interested to hear some reasoning.
 
We weren't the only team that passed on him.

Too many people let the media form their opinions for them.

He seems much more immature than the rest of the players I saw.

I think he probably owes his reputation much more on the fact that Weiss was his coach & he ran that pro style offense than Beck does to whoever his coach was. He didn't play all that good in the big games either. Beck won the bowl game that he played in...

He seemed too immature to really lead a team IMO...
 
i forgot to bring that up !!! most Miami fans seriously bit the hype this year and they're all still clueless as to why we passed on a Qb who's name is Brady. We got our QB in Beck........ end the damn love affair. It was never meant to be so why are you ALL STILL bringin it up ????
 
It cannot surprise anyone that a large proportion of the posters on this forum believed the Brady Quinn hype. Last year many of these same poor sods were arguing that Reggie Bush was a "once in a lifetime" talent, and this year some of them were referring to Adrian Peterson in superlatives reserved for the Buddha, Jesus Christ and Gandhi. If Cam Cameron, who has coached up some elite quarterbacks in his career--Trent Green, Drew Brees, and Phillip Rivers, got a journeyman quarterback like Gus Frerotte to the Pro Bowl, and turned a glorified wide receiver into one of the best quarterbacks in the NCAA, Antawn Randle El, passes on Brady Quinn, when Randy Mueller who has had some good success in acquiring quarterbacks in his time as general manager passes on Brady Quinn, and when they both do so when the freaking quarterback coach, Terry Shea worked extensively with Quinn to prep him for the draft, you know something is amiss. Gary Kubiak, another guy that knows something about quarterbacks decided before the draft he'd rather overpay a career backup with hardly any playing experience, and waste a couple of high draft picks for Matt Schaub, rather then make a play for Quinn in the draft. Why? The Browns who desperately needed a quarterback passed on the guy at three, even though Romeo Crennel is tight with Charlie Weiss. The fact they got him at 22 is pure luck. The Lions, with no quarterback of merit on the roster passed on Quinn with quarterback guru Mike Martz having input, what does this tell you? He wasn't as highly regarded as many thought. He's Aaron Rogers.

The Dolphins determined that John Beck was superior value at 40 to Brady Quinn at 9. Two other things stand out about Quinn, the most quantifiable is his accuracy, or lack thereof. Even when he completes a lot of his passes, it's because his receivers, who physically overmatched most of the competition Notre Dame lined up against, were always making plays on the ball despite how poorly thrown many of the passes were. John Beck on the other hand is a highly accurate passer, especially in the short to medium range game (remind anyone of Marc Bulger, or Drew Brees?) Secondly, Beck is more mature then Quinn, who at times comes off like a putz. Now to those who say that Quinn just does it on the field, what exactly has he done? He's not won any big game he's been in, he's had some rather dreadful performances in those games. At least for a guy like Vince Young, or Matt Leinart, or Jay Cutler, you could say they were winners, even Cutler beat teams Vanderbilt wasn't supposed to beat. Not so with Quinn. And this despite his being coached up by Charlie Weiss. No other quarterback in the draft had the coaching pedigree at his disposal Quinn had. How much better can Quinn be? Is he likely to get much better tutelage in the NFL then he did from Weiss? I doubt it. I never did understand the enthusiasm for Quinn to be honest. Whether Beck was the correct pick, or not, it's not clear Quinn should have been.
 
It cannot surprise anyone that a large proportion of the posters on this forum believed the Brady Quinn hype. Last year many of these same poor sods were arguing that Reggie Bush was a "once in a lifetime" talent, and this year some of them were referring to Adrian Peterson in superlatives reserved for the Buddha, Jesus Christ and Gandhi. If Cam Cameron, who has coached up some elite quarterbacks in his career--Trent Green, Drew Brees, and Phillip Rivers, got a journeyman quarterback like Gus Frerotte to the Pro Bowl, and turned a glorified wide receiver into one of the best quarterbacks in the NCAA, Antawn Randle El, passes on Brady Quinn, when Randy Mueller who has had some good success in acquiring quarterbacks in his time as general manager passes on Brady Quinn, and when they both do so when the freaking quarterback coach, Terry Shea worked extensively with Quinn to prep him for the draft, you know something is amiss. Gary Kubiak, another guy that knows something about quarterbacks decided before the draft he'd rather overpay a career backup with hardly any playing experience, and waste a couple of high draft picks for Matt Schaub, rather then make a play for Quinn in the draft. Why? The Browns who desperately needed a quarterback passed on the guy at three, even though Romeo Crennel is tight with Charlie Weiss. The fact they got him at 22 is pure luck. The Lions, with no quarterback of merit on the roster passed on Quinn with quarterback guru Mike Martz having input, what does this tell you? He wasn't as highly regarded as many thought. He's Aaron Rogers.

The Dolphins determined that John Beck was superior value at 40 to Brady Quinn at 9. Two other things stand out about Quinn, the most quantifiable is his accuracy, or lack thereof. Even when he completes a lot of his passes, it's because his receivers, who physically overmatched most of the competition Notre Dame lined up against, were always making plays on the ball despite how poorly thrown many of the passes were. John Beck on the other hand is a highly accurate passer, especially in the short to medium range game (remind anyone of Marc Bulger, or Drew Brees?) Secondly, Beck is more mature then Quinn, who at times comes off like a putz. Now to those who say that Quinn just does it on the field, what exactly has he done? He's not won any big game he's been in, he's had some rather dreadful performances in those games. At least for a guy like Vince Young, or Matt Leinart, or Jay Cutler, you could say they were winners, even Cutler beat teams Vanderbilt wasn't supposed to beat. Not so with Quinn. And this despite his being coached up by Charlie Weiss. No other quarterback in the draft had the coaching pedigree at his disposal Quinn had. How much better can Quinn be? Is he likely to get much better tutelage in the NFL then he did from Weiss? I doubt it. I never did understand the enthusiasm for Quinn to be honest. Whether Beck was the correct pick, or not, it's not clear Quinn should have been.


Wow, nice post dude. Agree 100%
 
It cannot surprise anyone that a large proportion of the posters on this forum believed the Brady Quinn hype. Last year many of these same poor sods were arguing that Reggie Bush was a "once in a lifetime" talent, and this year some of them were referring to Adrian Peterson in superlatives reserved for the Buddha, Jesus Christ and Gandhi. If Cam Cameron, who has coached up some elite quarterbacks in his career--Trent Green, Drew Brees, and Phillip Rivers, got a journeyman quarterback like Gus Frerotte to the Pro Bowl, and turned a glorified wide receiver into one of the best quarterbacks in the NCAA, Antawn Randle El, passes on Brady Quinn, when Randy Mueller who has had some good success in acquiring quarterbacks in his time as general manager passes on Brady Quinn, and when they both do so when the freaking quarterback coach, Terry Shea worked extensively with Quinn to prep him for the draft, you know something is amiss. Gary Kubiak, another guy that knows something about quarterbacks decided before the draft he'd rather overpay a career backup with hardly any playing experience, and waste a couple of high draft picks for Matt Schaub, rather then make a play for Quinn in the draft. Why? The Browns who desperately needed a quarterback passed on the guy at three, even though Romeo Crennel is tight with Charlie Weiss. The fact they got him at 22 is pure luck. The Lions, with no quarterback of merit on the roster passed on Quinn with quarterback guru Mike Martz having input, what does this tell you? He wasn't as highly regarded as many thought. He's Aaron Rogers.

The Dolphins determined that John Beck was superior value at 40 to Brady Quinn at 9. Two other things stand out about Quinn, the most quantifiable is his accuracy, or lack thereof. Even when he completes a lot of his passes, it's because his receivers, who physically overmatched most of the competition Notre Dame lined up against, were always making plays on the ball despite how poorly thrown many of the passes were. John Beck on the other hand is a highly accurate passer, especially in the short to medium range game (remind anyone of Marc Bulger, or Drew Brees?) Secondly, Beck is more mature then Quinn, who at times comes off like a putz. Now to those who say that Quinn just does it on the field, what exactly has he done? He's not won any big game he's been in, he's had some rather dreadful performances in those games. At least for a guy like Vince Young, or Matt Leinart, or Jay Cutler, you could say they were winners, even Cutler beat teams Vanderbilt wasn't supposed to beat. Not so with Quinn. And this despite his being coached up by Charlie Weiss. No other quarterback in the draft had the coaching pedigree at his disposal Quinn had. How much better can Quinn be? Is he likely to get much better tutelage in the NFL then he did from Weiss? I doubt it. I never did understand the enthusiasm for Quinn to be honest. Whether Beck was the correct pick, or not, it's not clear Quinn should have been.

This is probably the most level-headed post on this board at the time. I agree totally and after watching more of Beck and Ginn on YouTube, with Ginn's speed and Beck's cannon, can you say "long ball"? I think this offense has finally found it's wow point.
 
This is probably the most level-headed post on this board at the time. I agree totally and after watching more of Beck and Ginn on YouTube, with Ginn's speed and Beck's cannon, can you say "long ball"? I think this offense has finally found it's wow point.

Totally concur on that!

It's very telling that even with Quinn's QB coach in the FO, that the 'Phins passed on him...
 
Yeah I think the Dolphin's staff clearly reviewed Quinn and Beck, and there was no reason for us to take Quinn at #9 and overpay millions for a guy who is not worth it.

I know many people felt we could have traded down and maybe taken Ginn later, but in the games where I have watched Ohio State, Ginn is a guy who can break one at anytime. We have not had speedy receivers like this since maybe the Mark Brothers, and I think Ginn is faster than both of them. He doesn't yet have the hands that Clayton and Duper had, but I really like the pick.
 
It cannot surprise anyone that a large proportion of the posters on this forum believed the Brady Quinn hype. Last year many of these same poor sods were arguing that Reggie Bush was a "once in a lifetime" talent, and this year some of them were referring to Adrian Peterson in superlatives reserved for the Buddha, Jesus Christ and Gandhi. If Cam Cameron, who has coached up some elite quarterbacks in his career--Trent Green, Drew Brees, and Phillip Rivers, got a journeyman quarterback like Gus Frerotte to the Pro Bowl, and turned a glorified wide receiver into one of the best quarterbacks in the NCAA, Antawn Randle El, passes on Brady Quinn, when Randy Mueller who has had some good success in acquiring quarterbacks in his time as general manager passes on Brady Quinn, and when they both do so when the freaking quarterback coach, Terry Shea worked extensively with Quinn to prep him for the draft, you know something is amiss. Gary Kubiak, another guy that knows something about quarterbacks decided before the draft he'd rather overpay a career backup with hardly any playing experience, and waste a couple of high draft picks for Matt Schaub, rather then make a play for Quinn in the draft. Why? The Browns who desperately needed a quarterback passed on the guy at three, even though Romeo Crennel is tight with Charlie Weiss. The fact they got him at 22 is pure luck. The Lions, with no quarterback of merit on the roster passed on Quinn with quarterback guru Mike Martz having input, what does this tell you? He wasn't as highly regarded as many thought. He's Aaron Rogers.

The Dolphins determined that John Beck was superior value at 40 to Brady Quinn at 9. Two other things stand out about Quinn, the most quantifiable is his accuracy, or lack thereof. Even when he completes a lot of his passes, it's because his receivers, who physically overmatched most of the competition Notre Dame lined up against, were always making plays on the ball despite how poorly thrown many of the passes were. John Beck on the other hand is a highly accurate passer, especially in the short to medium range game (remind anyone of Marc Bulger, or Drew Brees?) Secondly, Beck is more mature then Quinn, who at times comes off like a putz. Now to those who say that Quinn just does it on the field, what exactly has he done? He's not won any big game he's been in, he's had some rather dreadful performances in those games. At least for a guy like Vince Young, or Matt Leinart, or Jay Cutler, you could say they were winners, even Cutler beat teams Vanderbilt wasn't supposed to beat. Not so with Quinn. And this despite his being coached up by Charlie Weiss. No other quarterback in the draft had the coaching pedigree at his disposal Quinn had. How much better can Quinn be? Is he likely to get much better tutelage in the NFL then he did from Weiss? I doubt it. I never did understand the enthusiasm for Quinn to be honest. Whether Beck was the correct pick, or not, it's not clear Quinn should have been.

Wow man, fantastic post. I would even say that Quinn not staying in the green room past the Miami pick says a lot about his character. At least Aaron Brooks stayed in the green room and rode it out like a man, Brady went to hide in some suite where he probably cried his eyes out and screamed at his representation.
 
Could this have been the deciding factor for us not picking Quinn at number 9.

The deciding factor was that he is not a top ten pick.

A team that is desperate with a coaches job on the line sold their future because THEY have no future unless they start winning. Brady Quinn might buy them another year. He will never lead an offensive juggernaut to the Super Bowl though. That is the expectation of a top ten pick......

If these pin heads booing had any sense they would have realized that no one thought he was better than the three QBs picked last year. Leinart fell to number nine last year. Now if Quinn isn't better than the three last year and Leinart fell to nine - how in the world could we justify picking Quinn at nine this year?

Does desperation justify the pick?

Well I've got an idea. Many of the pinheads booing probably haven't been laid in months. There are many fat ugly chicks at the bar tonight. You are desperate. How about it? Are you picking up the fat ugly chick? It might feel good today. Tomorrow you'll be gnawing your arm off to get away.
 
The deciding factor was that he is not a top ten pick.

A team that is desperate with a coaches job on the line sold their future because THEY have no future unless they start winning. Brady Quinn might buy them another year. He will never lead an offensive juggernaut to the Super Bowl though. That is the expectation of a top ten pick......

If these pin heads booing had any sense they would have realized that no one thought he was better than the three QBs picked last year. Leinart fell to number nine last year. Now if Quinn isn't better than the three last year and Leinart fell to nine - how in the world could we justify picking Quinn at nine this year?

Does desperation justify the pick?

Well I've got an idea. Many of the pinheads booing probably haven't been laid in months. There are many fat ugly chicks at the bar tonight. You are desperate. How about it? Are you picking up the fat ugly chick? It might feel good today. Tomorrow you'll be gnawing your arm off to get away.

Now thats funny!:lol::lol::sidelol:
 
i'll bump this well thought out , non whining post also.

thanks for reason mr.majestic
 
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