Slappy8800 said:sage knows the system and is cheap
you got it--and thats why Gus is here too
Slappy8800 said:sage knows the system and is cheap
shouright said:Everybody's speculating about the draft. Here are the signals I'm reading from Saban:
1) The signing of Gus Frerotte -- this says he isn't totally sold on Feeley.
2) The re-signing of Sage Rosenfels -- says the same thing.
3) Saban's quote that Feeley "needs to be responsible for his own self-determination" in the QB competition with Frerotte. Says to me that Saban may believe Feeley is low in the intangibles associated with the QB position, which has been speculated here before.
4) Saban being more "public" (uncharacteristic for Saban) in his hunt for Ricky Williams just after attending Alex Smith's workout -- says to me that he may be trying to secure the RB position with Ricky so we don't have to draft a RB #1.
All in all I think these things say he was very impressed by Alex Smith. So impressed that I think he's doing what he has to do to be able to draft him. If Ricky isn't interested in playing, don't be surprised to see a trade for Travis Henry soon.
jreg1 said:this may be true.....but it could also be that nick is holding a two and a seven offsuit and is bluffing cleveland and other teams into thinking hes going to put all his chips in the middle of the table and take a qb when he isn't....nick is just waiting to see what the flop is going to be before he decides how much to bet!!!!:roflmao:
catapano said:he kind of impressed me with his touch passes in the game he played this year just dropping the ball right into the bread basket, looked like he had a better touch than feeley. im just not sure he would survive a season twith our o-line
exactly.jreg1 said:this may be true.....but it could also be that nick is holding a two and a seven offsuit and is bluffing cleveland and other teams into thinking hes going to put all his chips in the middle of the table and take a qb when he isn't....nick is just waiting to see what the flop is going to be before he decides how much to bet!!!!:roflmao:
:eek:BlueFin said:Maybe, but if Ricky does come back strong there is hardly a need to spend the #2 pick in a draft on a runner.
inFINSible said::eek:
Considering Ricky can't even come back to the team until 3 months after the draft I'm trying to figure out how this scenario is going to work.
Maybe he'll send his astro-body?
Would you really trust Ricky or are you so determined to get a QB that you would compromise your good judgement and simply go with crossed fingers?
1) What's the average shelf life of a QB? 1b) What does average shelf life have to do with anything?BlueFin said:1) This is a deep runningback draft, we don't have to spend the #2 Pick of a draft on a position with an average shelf life of 4 or 5 years.
2) Ricky Williams after a year off is a better runningback than AJ Feeley is a quarterback.
3) Shouright's point about this Ricky thing surfacing right after the QB workouts of Smith and Rodgers(both being described as two of the best in ten years) makes a lot of sense to me.
4) I don't think we need to spend the #2 pick on a runner, even if Ricky doesn't come back, so if he does its gravy.:D
inFINSible said:1) What's the average shelf life of a QB? 1b) What does average shelf life have to do with anything?
2) Is he? I wouldn't know, I've never seen Ricky take a year off, lose 30 lbs and then play again. When did you see him do that?
3)Coincidence makes sense too.
4) I can't argue against what you think but, I can say that I think a franchise RB is exactly what we need to turn this offense from bad to good.
arsenal said:your telling me we would have done just as well without ricky than with ricky? be serious we saw what happened to our team without him... you need a lot of pieces to make a team, right now with the coaching and the players we could be a young franchise running back away from a pretty damn good offense, and we've beefed up our defense so really from a real good team...
If we had a QB who could actually throw the ball to all parts of the field we would have gone to the SB in 2002 (the year Ricky led the league in rushing), now, we have three that can do that.BlueFin said:Ok, lets consider your last statement and forget the rest for the moment......
"I can say that I think a franchise RB is exactly what we need to turn this offense from bad to good" - InFINSible
Now I ask you, please describe for me how acquiring Ricky Willliams, who led the entire NFL in rushing in 2003, improved our football team over free agent castoff Lamar Smith?
Was the leagues leading rusher "exactly what we needed to turn this offense from bad to good" as you put it?