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Pre-rebuild versus post re-build.
Absent from this graphic is Minkah Fitzpatrick, who was a rookie.
The roster was better in 2018. And that team still stunk. That team started 3-0, but finished 7-9, which means they went 4-9 to finish the year. Scary when your roster has gone through an extensive rebuild, and is less talented than a team that finished 4-9.
We rebuilt into a condemned building.
Had legit LT and RT. Minkah. Tannehill, regardless of what people think of him, has been pretty good since he left and I think led the NFL in QB rating one year and went to the playoffs. Cam Wake. Bobby McCain who provided a ton of leadership (another mistake Flores and Grier made was letting a fair bit of veteran leadership go). Xavien Howard, great then, this year no idea what is going on.
At least then we had guys who played or could play at a pro bowl level. This year, besides Ogbah maybe, not sure there is a single player that is grading out above average?
My 2 cents the blame lies more with Ross than Grier (although I massively blame Grier and Flores too), simply because when you go down this path you better make sure you have a good guy in place to execute on the plan and buy the groceries.
P.S. it is also a bit scary when you are not even sure who is responsible for which decisions w regard to talent acquisition and disposal....Grier? Flores? Ross? I do not like these group grope organizational structures with no clear decision maker or accountability
P.P.S. rubbing more salt in the wound, the 2018 roster was built by Tannenbaum. we have guys now that are worse than Tannenbaum, who can't get another NFL job. this defies the laws of physics. and double salt in the wound, Tannenbaum was on record before last years draft saying Herbert over Tua, and bigly at that!


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this is what happens when you tear a team down to the bare bones. It was not a good idea. Didn't like it then and I don't like it now.
said it from the beginning....it was always a long con grier put on ross to keep his job safe as long as he could since he couldnt pass the buck anymore.....other teams go from bad to good in a couple to few years.......grier was always gonna make sure it looked like it was gonna be a long process.....hence the teardown
 

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You sound like you were in the Navy 😆

Yeah let's not blame the guy who's job it was (Grier), let's blame his superior .... yeah! 🤣 yeah definitely a Navy guy!
 

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You sound like you were in the Navy 😆

Yeah let's not blame the guy who's job it was (Grier), let's blame his superior .... yeah! 🤣 yeah definitely a Navy guy!
oh believe me i blame grier too, i guess i should edit that
 

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Pre-rebuild versus post re-build.
Absent from this graphic is Minkah Fitzpatrick, who was a rookie.
The roster was better in 2018. And that team still stunk. That team started 3-0, but finished 7-9, which means they went 4-9 to finish the year. Scary when your roster has gone through an extensive rebuild, and is less talented than a team that finished 4-9.
We rebuilt into a condemned building.
Had legit LT and RT. Minkah. Tannehill, regardless of what people think of him, has been pretty good since he left and I think led the NFL in QB rating one year and went to the playoffs. Cam Wake. Bobby McCain who provided a ton of leadership (another mistake Flores and Grier made was letting a fair bit of veteran leadership go). Xavien Howard, great then, this year no idea what is going on.
At least then we had guys who played or could play at a pro bowl level. This year, besides Ogbah maybe, not sure there is a single player that is grading out above average?
My 2 cents the blame lies more with Ross than Grier, simply because when you go down this path you better make sure you have a good guy in place to execute on the plan and buy the groceries.


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Looks good on paper BUT...........

James was a liability and never lived up to his 1st round status, traded and is now out of the league.
Ted Larsen was always injured.
Jessie Davis according to this logic still sucks.
Still < Waddle
Amendola = to anyone else lining up now
O'Leary < Gesicki when he is used correctly
Old Gore < Gaskins

McMillian isn't even in the league anymore.
Alonso was a liability and never made a tackle closer than 5 yards downfield
Godchaux < Wilkins
Wake in 18 < Ogbah now

I am sorry but that roster talent wise was not as good as this one. Did they perform better, yes but arguing you'd rather have that roster and pretending it didn't need to be turned over completely is just stupid.
 

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Looks good on paper BUT...........

James was a liability and never lived up to his 1st round status, traded and is now out of the league.
Ted Larsen was always injured.
Jessie Davis according to this logic still sucks.
Still < Waddle
Amendola = to anyone else lining up now
O'Leary < Gesicki when he is used correctly
Old Gore < Gaskins

McMillian isn't even in the league anymore.
Alonso was a liability and never made a tackle closer than 5 yards downfield
Godchaux < Wilkins
Wake in 18 < Ogbah now

I am sorry but that roster talent wise was not as good as this one. Did they perform better, yes but arguing you'd rather have that roster and pretending it didn't need to be turned over completely is just stupid.
who on this roster is good?
 

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I bet that I could take 2018's roster and beat this one. Keep in mind, Drake and Gesicki are on that roster, just not listed as starters
 

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Looks good on paper BUT...........

James was a liability and never lived up to his 1st round status, traded and is now out of the league.
Ted Larsen was always injured.
Jessie Davis according to this logic still sucks.
Still < Waddle
Amendola = to anyone else lining up now
O'Leary < Gesicki when he is used correctly
Old Gore < Gaskins

McMillian isn't even in the league anymore.
Alonso was a liability and never made a tackle closer than 5 yards downfield
Godchaux < Wilkins
Wake in 18 < Ogbah now

I am sorry but that roster talent wise was not as good as this one. Did they perform better, yes but arguing you'd rather have that roster and pretending it didn't need to be turned over completely is just stupid.
You are Tripping. The current roster is garbage. Don't get me wrong. The 2018 roster was bad but this current roster is unbelievable bad.
 

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Honestly the 2017 and 2018 teams were stacked… its such a depressing thing to think about when you start reading names…
 

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You are Tripping. The current roster is garbage. Don't get me wrong. The 2018 roster was bad but this current roster is unbelievable bad.
At the start of this season you would be hard pressed to find one single person who would say "yeah this 2021 roster is much worse than 2018 roster" arguing that fact now is like arguing you wouldn't have lost your leg in the car crash if you had bought a different car, either way the old car needed to replaced.
 

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At the start of this season you would be hard pressed to find one single person who would say "yeah this 2021 roster is much worse than 2018 roster" arguing the fact now is like arguing you wouldn't have lost your leg in the car crash if you had bought a different car, either way the old car needed to replaced.
Yep. I was a believer also. I have come realize this is a poorly constructed team. Sub par players up and down the roster. These guys get paid alot to evaluate talent and they got it wrong in a multitude of areas. Throw in very bad misses on first round talent and here you go. If you feel the talent is there then the obvious answer is the coaches and management
 

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Chris Grier deconstructed his mediocre team and built a mediocre team in its place. The only difference was we wasted 3 off-seasons to get back to where we were in 2018.

If you continue to let mediocre people run your team you will continue to get mediocre results. Ross is a mad man if he lets Grier touch any picks or cap space this off-season.
 
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