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I see a lot of crying about Howard, Zach and Flores being snubbed. Fans seem to never associate wins with the players/coaches. You want these guys to get respect? Then win. It is simple. Raise your standards. Why did Stefanski get his honor? He won more. It was simple. Why did Donald win his honor? You guessed it. Zach Thomas did not win a lot. His 4th quarter defenses were pulverized in the 4th quarter. He couldn't cover tight ends. It is a tough pill to swallow. Miami for decades has been irrelevant. You want accolades? Then win. Hit on draft picks, hit on the qb, figure out why so many linemen have to get drafted or signed AND why the rest of the NFL plays chess, while picking skilled players. Stop cheering mediocrity. Go Phins!
 
Didn't you predict 4 wins last year and we won 10? The year before you predicted 0 wins and ranted and raved about Tanking for Tua (who you now want dumped for Watson). So, we seem to be averaging 5.5 wins over what you predict. Just saying.
 
OmegaPhinsFan said:
Stop personally attacking me.
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I'm not personally attacking you. I'm simply citing your past predictions.
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Fin-Loco said:
Didn't you predict 4 wins last year and we won 10? The year before you predicted 0 wins and ranted and raved about Tanking for Tua (who you now want dumped for Watson). So, we seem to be averaging 5.5 wins over what you predict. Just saying.
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Didnt you call Tua trash and also say Herbert was in a weak conf in college?
 
OmegaPhinsFan said:
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Hmmmm.......

So now truth = personal attacks?

You aren't wrong about winning and playoff success leading to national recognition, but let's not pretend you're not all over the place with knee jerk reactions, and bitching no matter the decision made.
 
OmegaPhinsFan said:
I see a lot of crying about Howard, Zach and Flores being snubbed. Fans seem to never associate wins with the players/coaches. You want these guys to get respect? Then win. It is simple. Raise your standards. Why did Stefanski get his honor? He won more. It was simple. Why did Donald win his honor? You guessed it. Zach Thomas did not win a lot. His 4th quarter defenses were pulverized in the 4th quarter. He couldn't cover tight ends. It is a tough pill to swallow. Miami for decades has been irrelevant. You want accolades? Then win. Hit on draft picks, hit on the qb, figure out why so many linemen have to get drafted or signed AND why the rest of the NFL plays chess, while picking skilled players. Stop cheering mediocrity. Go Phins!
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So by your standards Dan Marino should not be in the HOF cause he never won a ring. Sure it helps when you win but we shouldn't just disregard everything a player does just because he was on a team that wasn't good enough. No player can win all by himself. It's not fair to punish the player because the rest of the team didn't do enough to win.
 
If team wins are the reason why individual players win individual rewards, then why did Donald win over Watt? Why did Stefanski win over McDermott? Why was Justin Herbert even any conversation?
 
OmegaPhinsFan said:
Didnt you call Tua trash and also say Herbert was in a weak conf in college?
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Yep. I had a moment of weakness after the Bills loss. Called him trash when I was ticked off about losing a game that could have had us in the playoffs. However, when I calmed down, I realized and remembered what he's working with. So, I'm human. Give me a knock for that. Doesn't matter.

Yes I called Pac 12 weak. Because it is weak. Sherbert is the new Rivers or Stafford. Not a lot of wins but a lot of stats. I'm still happier with Tua.
 
OP just frustrated we haven’t won anything for a while go easy on him, quite a few of us have these moments.
 
Thomas was on a winning team 8 of the 12 years he played for the Dolphins. The Dolphins also went to the playoffs 5 times while Thomas was the starting MLB. Jason Taylor was on those same teams and he was elected to the HOF the first time he was eligible which is when he should have been elected.
‘Thomas wasn’t responsible for the fact the offense just wasn’t very good during his years with the Dolphins. He played as well or better than any other MLB except perhaps Ray Lewis during his years in the NFL and the fact is that during his 12 years with the team the Dolphins did have an overall winning record. Saying the defense didn’t play well in the 4th quarter of some games is fair. Yet the last I checked, there are 11 guys on the defense and not just one.

Based on your criteria, I have to conclude that you don’t believe Taylor should be in the HOF either since he was a player on the same defenses Thomas played on with the Dolphins.
 
OmegaPhinsFan said:
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He wasn’t attacking you. He was merely pointing out your predictions for the past two seasons. I have had several posters bring up my past posts to point out where I was wrong and it never offended me. If we are willing to put our predictions and comments in print for others to respond too. We can’t be offended when others bring up these comments and predictions up when we are wrong.

I predicted the Dolphins would only win 4-5 games before the 2020 season. I was wrong and I had a few posters bring up my wrong prediction. I wasn’t offended or felt like I was being attacked. I just accepted I made a bad prediction and was happy the Dolphins far exceeded my expectations.
 
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Jason Taylor got in on the same defense and team Zach played on. Fans of a team have the right to defend their players it's only natural.

Many HOF get in playing for mediocre teams........ Like the Lions.
 
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