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Miami Dolphins, Ryan Tannehill Face Familiar Questions Entering 2016

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He could have thrown the ball away on the first 3 sacks. Dude is deer in headlights when any pressure is applied to him. Just doesn't handle it well. Could have saved 2 points on the first one with a pass to the flat short of Landry and a punt. More the same with second. IMO 25% of the sacks Ryan has endured could have been avoided with a simple throw away. He just never seems to get it.
 
Is your point that every QB would be sacked at the same rate as RT in the same circumstances and there is no such thing as pocket presence?
 
Fins1971 said:
He could have thrown the ball away on the first 3 sacks. Dude is deer in headlights when any pressure is applied to him. Just doesn't handle it well. Could have saved 2 points on the first one with a pass to the flat short of Landry and a punt. More the same with second. IMO 25% of the sacks Ryan has endured could have been avoided with a simple throw away. He just never seems to get it.
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I have no issue with your opinion, but I think you are leaping with your 25% numbers. I'm sure all QB's have sacks they are responsible for.....some probably more than others. But there are so many variables in this it is impossible to accurately measure.

You say 25%, I'll throw out that it is closer to 10%. The only one I felt he might have had a chance to throw it away yesterday was the safety.
 
there's no such thing as pocket presence in Miami....because there's never a pocket. have you seen the guard play? woof.

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Dolphins512 said:
I have no issue with your opinion, but I think you are leaping with your 25% numbers. I'm sure all QB's have sacks they are responsible for.....some probably more than others. But there are so many variables in this it is impossible to accurately measure.

You say 25%, I'll throw out that it is closer to 10%. The only one I felt he might have had a chance to throw it away yesterday was the safety.
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wasn't he still inside the tackles? if he threw it away, good chance it would have been intentional grounded...and in the endzone, that's a safety.
 
Fins1971 said:
He could have thrown the ball away on the first 3 sacks. Dude is deer in headlights when any pressure is applied to him. Just doesn't handle it well. Could have saved 2 points on the first one with a pass to the flat short of Landry and a punt. More the same with second. IMO 25% of the sacks Ryan has endured could have been avoided with a simple throw away. He just never seems to get it.
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he cant just throw balls away how about a rule called intentional grounding? he needs time to step away from the pocket also to throw it away.
 
You guys are full of excuses. Flick the ball side handed past the line of scrimmage like every other QB in the league does. That is not grounding.
 
So he has one of the shortest snap to release numbers runs an offense that by design throws the ball short and quicky even and still gets hit and sacked at that clip and its on the qb?

:lol:

Brutal
 
I think at this point Tannehills confidence has diminished to the point where if he had a good o-line he wouldnt know what to do because he hasnt been in many of those situations.
 
truedolfan57 said:
there's no such thing as pocket presence in Miami....because there's never a pocket. have you seen the guard play? woof.

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wasn't he still inside the tackles? if he threw it away, good chance it would have been intentional grounded...and in the endzone, that's a safety.
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Actually that is a very good point which I hadn't thought of. Yes he was in the box.

Although on that play, it seemed a little slow developing as it was a stunt by the DT and he might have had some time to get it off.....but your likely correct. He was definitely in the box.
 
hooshoops said:
So he has one of the shortest snap to release numbers runs an offense that by design throws the ball short and quicky even and still gets hit and sacked at that clip and its on the qb?

:lol:

Brutal
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2016 is just around the corner. Talk about brutal. Your sig is brutal. Just give it up and admit you were wrong and are not a football guru.
 
Tannehill's deep ball is improved dramatically imo if he gets TIME. He does need to manage on when a touch pass is better then a bullet tho on some intermediate routes.
 
Fins1971 said:
He could have thrown the ball away on the first 3 sacks. Dude is deer in headlights when any pressure is applied to him. Just doesn't handle it well. Could have saved 2 points on the first one with a pass to the flat short of Landry and a punt. More the same with second. IMO 25% of the sacks Ryan has endured could have been avoided with a simple throw away. He just never seems to get it.
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So even at that number which you think is his fault, which I believe is high, he still would have endured about 140 sacks in his first 4 years. That number is still abysmal.
 
Dolphins512 said:
Actually that is a very good point which I hadn't thought of. Yes he was in the box.

Although on that play, it seemed a little slow developing as it was a stunt by the DT and he might have had some time to get it off.....but your likely correct. He was definitely in the box.
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Hes in the tackle box but he had shifted over slightly to that bottom side getting ready to take a vertical shot to parker when by the time he sees color the dt is in his chest...its not the qbs job there to watch the rush and not the vertical route concepts...my god it was the first pass play of the game and the oline blew the pass off protection
 
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