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Miami going to attempt to trade up to #1

I understand that line of thinking. As I‘ve said many times, because of those injuries, I’m not in favor of trading up for him. For me, it’s #5 or bust. That’s the level of risk I’d be willing to take.

Because if it doesn’t workout, the Dolphins still have the other picks to plug holes or trade down to acquire more capital and next year’s picks. But trading a lot of picks and then not having it work would be a travesty.

If he’s gone by #5, I’m looking towards 2021 and riding with Fitzpatrick — as the team was already gonna do in 2020 even if they landed Tua. What’s one more season?

Regardless, we’re on the same page with regard not panicking to reach for or settle for just any QB from the 2020 class. In fact, sans Tua falling to 5, that’s precisely what I’d like to see the Dolphins do. Wait til 2021.

But I do understand your reticence over drafting him at all.

It'd be way worse to not trade up for him and some other team does and he ends up being the QB many believe he can be. I know for damn sure I wouldn't be mad at the franchise by gambling on greatness at the QB position. Hell it's the right thing to do at QB. Those extra picks have as much a chance of not working out as Tua and would not have near the impact of Tua if he were to work out. What makes you think the QBs next year would be any better or Miami would in a better position to land one? You strike while the iron is hot. QB is not the position you just settle for. In my opinion there are only two types of QBs. The ones that are good enough to make you a Super Bowl threat or a Qb that's only a place holder until you find one that is. And the whole time you better be trying your ass off to find that replacement.
 
I don't see any point for the Dolphins to trade up unless it is for the Bengals first overall pick to select Joe Burrow. It doesn't make sense to trade up a few spots for Tua when he can be had at number five overall. His questionable health would scare plenty of teams away. Trade up for number one or stay put seems like the logical choice.
Total speculation that he can be had at #5. Only one team would have to move only one spot in front of Miami for him to be plucked away from you. You have no idea how teams feel about him. Do you think Miami is the only team in the league that would like to get their hands on Tua?
 
The only problem w Burrow is that I dont think dolphins can get him.
 
Food for thought.

People are holding it against Tua because his injuries "required" surgery.

Nobody "needs surgery" for a sprained ankle. Tua elected to have surgery so he wouldn't miss games and so he wouldn't ever sprain his ankles again.

Totally agree regarding the ankle injuries. I’ve never been concerned about his ankles. It’s his hip.

I wouldn’t want to trade up on that basis. Hope MIA lands him at 5.
 
Totally agree regarding the ankle injuries. I’ve never been concerned about his ankles. It’s his hip.

I wouldn’t want to trade up on that basis. Hope MIA lands him at 5.
here is the problem we dont get TT at #5 because the chargers move up and rather cheaply because we stand pat ~ so we dont take herbert or love for whatever reason and wait on a qb next year - we will win between 6-7 games next year possibly even more and now we dont have the capital to move up on a qb because we are too far in front of the lesser to begin with

so unless we love love or herbert we cant just sit at #5 if you believe in TT

now if the fo thinks it is rather square between the players then you can take that risk but I believe they adore TT and that is my opinion
 
here is the problem we dont get TT at #5 because the chargers move up and rather cheaply because we stand pat ~ so we dont take herbert or love for whatever reason and wait on a qb next year - we will win between 6-7 games next year possibly even more and now we dont have the capital to move up on a qb because we are too far in front of the lesser to begin with

That’s not necessarily true.

First, we don’t know where the Dolphins or Texans picks will be. But we do have them. And two first round picks aren’t nothing. Neither are two 2nd round picks.

AND it’s possible the Dolphins could trade down using #5 or #18 to add more capital. Possibly even trading Xavien Howard.

So let’s say they add a third 2021 1st round pick and a third 2021 2nd round pick via trade down and/or trading X. That’s a lot of capital. And they can also offer up their own 1st rounders in 2022 and 2023.

Sure, we don’t know where any of those picks will be yet. But that’s still potentially up to 5 first round and 5 2nd round picks in the arsenal.
 
The only reason I think dolphins should try draft Burrow or Tua. Because it would not require a lot of development. Plus I think they may be better too handle losing team than other ..I dont think dolphins are good at developing qb. Love and herbert may need extra develop. Which may lead to being bust. Plus this guy give dolphins best chance to win next 2 to 3 yr. Only time will tell if I am right or wrong.
ALL QBs need development to one extent or another.

Why do you say they can't? They have really not tried, other than RT.

Not only that, the entire staff is different now.

If there is one thing that I believe Flo can do, it is to get the most out of a player, and put them in a position to succeed.
 
ALL QBs need development to one extent or another.

Why do you say they can't? They have really not tried, other than RT.

Not only that, the entire staff is different now.

If there is one thing that I believe Flo can do, it is to get the most out of a player, and put them in a position to succeed.
Yes all qb need some development but I feel it would.be less of development w healthy Tua or Burrow. Does not mean herbert or love cant have better career. I feel love and herbert need lot more development to be ready in nfl.
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That’s not necessarily true.

First, we don’t know where the Dolphins or Texans picks will be. But we do have them. And two first round picks aren’t nothing. Neither are two 2nd round picks.

AND it’s possible the Dolphins could trade down using #5 or #18 to add more capital. Possibly even trading Xavien Howard.

So let’s say they add a third 2021 1st round pick and a third 2021 2nd round pick via trade down and/or trading X. That’s a lot of capital. And they can also offer up their own 1st rounders in 2022 and 2023.

Sure, we don’t know where any of those picks will be yet. But that’s still potentially up to 5 first round and 5 2nd round picks in the arsenal.
It is true if you are basing acquiring a top QB in 2021 with a Houston collapse and trying to get a one from X???? A team moving trying to move from a mid first into the first or second OA will cost way too much and won’t happen. And X is also not going to fetch a one not with his contract hopefully a two

You also write and it make it sound like we have two ones next year we have our own one and Houston one so we have a better chance to move up this year or stay pat and be jumped by Another team like the Chargers into no.3
 
Am I in the Tua Super Thread? The thread is talking about trading up to get BURROW not another Tua thread, damn. I can’t wait until the damn draft gets here.
 
here is the problem we dont get TT at #5 because the chargers move up and rather cheaply because we stand pat ~ so we dont take herbert or love for whatever reason and wait on a qb next year - we will win between 6-7 games next year possibly even more and now we dont have the capital to move up on a qb because we are too far in front of the lesser to begin with

so unless we love love or herbert we cant just sit at #5 if you believe in TT

now if the fo thinks it is rather square between the players then you can take that risk but I believe they adore TT and that is my opinion

Bless you. Someone who admits he doesn't know the opinion of Flo/Grier. Too many here are ABSOLUTELY certain what they'll do. I agree, Miami may have decided they want Tua, but at a specific cost or lower. Above that cost they're just as happy with Herbert. It is POSSIBLE Tua AND Herbert are there at #5. I'll be mildly surprised if that happens, but I don't see Miami paying 'whatever it takes' to move up. My opinion
 
Am I in the Tua Super Thread? The thread is talking about trading up to get BURROW not another Tua thread, damn. I can’t wait until the damn draft gets here.
Who’s says they’re trying to trade up to #1 to try and get only Burrow? All it says is they’re trying to trade up to get to #1 hell that could be for Young, Tua, or Burrow.

Ps there’s also another Burrow thread in here as well.
 
Ran across this this morning.



Want to debate which QB you think is best or has the brightest future? I’m good with it. What baffles me is the incessant narrative from some that Tua’s diagnoses are flawed, or biased, or positive in a way that doesn’t take football into consideration.

Dear message board hip specialists: These people know more than you. And while Tua hasn’t played or been hit in a game, these professionals are aware that he’s not trying to resume a career as a sculptor. They have a pretty good grasp on what sort of abuse he’s going to take.
 
Regarding the original question: If you believe that one specific QB is THE GUY for your team?

Go get him. I don’t care what it costs.
 
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