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Miami in close games (Part II)

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In the last 48 games we have had 14 large losses (lose by more than 7) and 12 large wins (win by more than 7).
My criteria for large losses and large wins is that one team didn't have a valid chance at winning late in the game.
The other 22 games were decided by 7 or fewer points and were up for grabs for either team to win.
Our record in those 22 close games is 11-11.

Close Game break down.

Ryan and the offense have had 5 game winning drives (SEA 12, ATL 13, PIT 13, NE 13, JETS 14) and have failed 5 times (IND 12, BUF 12, BALT 13, TB 13, DEN 14) while trailing by less than 6 with 1 ½ to 4 minutes remaining in game. (5 of 10) Ryan and the offense also had 2 other 4[SUP]th[/SUP] quarter comebacks (CIN 13, MIN 14) where we ended up winning the game (safety) after the offense tied the game while trailing late. There was also another 4[SUP]th[/SUP] quarter comeback to tie game (JETS 12) that we ended up losing in OT due to missed FG. So I am counting 13 of these 22 close games we were trailing late and the offense tied or took the lead 8 of 13 times. That seems like a pretty good rate when trailing. (61.5% success rate)

The problem for the offense comes when we are ahead and we need to close out the game and run out the clock. In the last 3 years we have had the ball and small lead with 3-4 minutes to play 10 times. 9 times we have given the ball back to the opponents and depended on the defense (ARZ 12, CIN 12, STL 12, BUF 13, SD 13, CAR 13, PIT 13, GB 14, DET 14) and 1 time we increased the lead to 2 scores to win the game on offense (NE 14). 1 of 10 (10% success rate)

Over that same period the Defense was given a small lead with less than 6 minutes in the game and preserved the win 8 times (CIN 12, STL 12, IND 13, SD 13, PIT 13, NE 13, JETS 14, MIN 14) and failed 6 times. (ARZ 12, BUFF 13, CAR 13, GB 14, DET 14, DEN 14 (8 of 14) Defense also forced walk off safety in OT (CIN 13) to win the last close game. 9 of 15 (60% success rate)


We definitely need to get better in these close games if we are going to make the playoffs this year and do any damage. By the averages we are going to see another 7 of these close games next year and we need to have a winning record in these tight games to be successful IMO.

In comparison the Patriots were 5-1 in close games last year including the playoff win over Baltimore and the Super Bowl win over the Seahawks.
 
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Did not know that a 8 point win/loss is considered a blowout. That is news to me.
 
Did not know that a 8 point win/loss is considered a blowout. That is news to me.

Just my opinion for discerning what a close game is. The post is about the close games and NOT the blowouts so I'm not sure why the point number would matter if it were 7 or 10. I can go back and edit the OP and say large wins and large loses if it will make you happy.:lol:
 
Did not know that a 8 point win/loss is considered a blowout. That is news to me.

Damn dude, give the guy some credit. The op obviously spent time on this. People come on here with sticks slammed up their butts and take it out on people who work hard to give us info.
 
Just my opinion for discerning what a close game is. The post is about the close games and NOT the blowouts so I'm not sure why the point number would matter if it were 7 or 10. I can go back and edit the OP and say large wins and large loses if it will make you happy.:lol:

Sorry about that -- my mistake. I appreciate the post.

Damn dude, give the guy some credit. The op obviously spent time on this. People come on here with sticks slammed up their butts and take it out on people who work hard to give us info.

You're right -- it was a dumb post by me.
 
The Denver game was a failed? I can't buy that
 
The Patriots had the highest margin of victory last year (point differential) at 9.7 points.

The Phins were 15th in the NFL..with a 1.0 point differential.

Source: SportingCharts.com

The Seahawks and Packers were 2nd and 3rd at 8.7 and 8.6 respectively. We need to do much better to be a contender.
 
The Denver game was a failed? I can't buy that

Miami was trailing by 4 points with 5:01 to play and turned it over with 3:17 at our 8 yard line.
It falls within the criteria stated in the OP. "while trailing by less than 6 with 1 ½ to 4 minutes remaining in game"
It was a chance for a game winning drive that failed.
 
Miami was trailing by 4 points with 5:01 to play and turned it over with 3:17 at our 8 yard line.
It falls within the criteria stated in the OP. "while trailing by less than 6 with 1 ½ to 4 minutes remaining in game"
It was a chance for a game winning drive that failed.
As i remember it the defense lost that game that's all I'm saying
 
The Denver game could technically fall into failure for both offense and defense. The defense gave up a lead with 5:01 remaining. A little early for late in the game but if you want to include that in the defensive failures as well as failed game winning drive for offense I can see your point.

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Over that same period the Defense was given a small lead with less than 6 minutes in the game and preserved the win 8 times (CIN 12, STL 12, IND 13, SD 13, PIT 13, NE 13, JETS 14, MIN 14) and failed 6 times. (ARZ 12, BUFF 13, CAR 13, GB 14, DET 14, DEN 14 (8 of 14) Defense also forced walk off safety in OT (CIN 13) to win the last close game. 9 of 15 (60% success rate)

updated OP

We good?
 
The Denver game could technically fall into failure for both offense and defense. The defense gave up a lead with 5:01 remaining. A little early for late in the game but if you want to include that in the defensive failures as well as failed game winning drive for offense I can see your point.

updated

Over that same period the Defense was given a small lead with less than 6 minutes in the game and preserved the win 8 times (CIN 12, STL 12, IND 13, SD 13, PIT 13, NE 13, JETS 14, MIN 14) and failed 6 times. (ARZ 12, BUFF 13, CAR 13, GB 14, DET 14, DEN 14 (8 of 14) Defense also forced walk off safety in OT (CIN 13) to win the last close game. 9 of 15 (60% success rate)

We good?

Its your thread. I was only nitpicking my mistake
 
I just dont see how you can blame an NFL offense for a loss in which they scored 36 points...
 
I just dont see how you can blame an NFL offense for a loss in which they scored 36 points...

He's been doing it for over 6 months you expect him to change now
 
He's been doing it for over 6 months you expect him to change now
TBH i appreciate the time he took to research this... I just feel the logic is flawed, he knows this as its not the first time we disagree on this...
 
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