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Miami –Indi: A contrast in developing young quaterbacks

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The Colts built around Peyton Manning in the late 90s/early 00s, creating a decade’s worth of success including a Super Bowl win. And now, Indianapolis has surrounded franchise QB Andrew Luck with young, talented players – just like they did with Peyton Manning.

2012 draft:
Ty Hilton, WR
Coby Fleener, TE
Dwayne Allen, TE

2013 draft:
OG Hugh[SIZE=-1] Thornton [/SIZE]

That’s not even including Wayne and Darrius Heyward-Bey, the latter of whom they added via free agency last offseason. Results two back to back playoff appearances, nice!
With the Colts’ acquisition of running back Trent Richardson, all the pieces on offense seem to be in place for the Indianapolis Colts. Just two years removed from the worst season by any team since the 2008 Lions, the Colts look like a team ready to rise to the top of the league.

Miami on the other hand, traded their best wide receiver away but failed to replace him. Drafted tackle that will never play a down for the team again followed by a TE who was inactive for 12 games in 2012....results, 2 straight years of missing playoffs.
 
fisi said:
The Colts built around Peyton Manning in the late 90s/early 00s, creating a decade’s worth of success including a Super Bowl win. And now, Indianapolis has surrounded franchise QB Andrew Luck with young, talented players – just like they did with Peyton Manning.

2012 draft:
Ty Hilton, WR
Coby Fleener, TE
Dwayne Allen, TE

2013 draft:
OG Hugh[SIZE=-1] Thornton [/SIZE]

That’s not even including Wayne and Darrius Heyward-Bey, the latter of whom they added via free agency last offseason. Results two back to back playoff appearances, nice!
With the Colts’ acquisition of running back Trent Richardson, all the pieces on offense seem to be in place for the Indianapolis Colts. Just two years removed from the worst season by any team since the 2008 Lions, the Colts look like a team ready to rise to the top of the league.

Miami on the other hand, traded their best wide receiver away but failed to replace him. Drafted tackle that will never play a down for the team again followed by a TE who was inactive for 12 games in 2012....results, 2 straight years of missing playoffs.
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Well I could almost agree with the talent aquisition..execpt for trent richardson. he sucks and a waste of a 1st round pick, but otherwise they've done well.

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Mudder1310 said:
You should penalize Indy for signing Heyward-Bey.
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oh yeah and him too. he's been awful too and sooo many drops.
 
Gibson, Wallace and Keller were weapons added for Tannehill..lets not over look these guys
 
Both Luck and Tannehill are good. I think that Tannehill has actually had some better WR weapons, since Reggie Wayne got injured. However, the big difference is that the Colts have done a better job of improving their O-line compared to Miami. I'm guilty of not studying much about competitor O-lines but I feel that the number of sacks that Tannehill took was partly a product of O-line weaknesses/deficiencies. The 2 O-linemen we rafted in the past 2 years, Martin (2nd round) and Thomas (3rd round) have been an embarrassment and unsighted. In fact with the exception of Pouncey, I have difficulty recalling another decent O-line draft pick. Yes, I will curb my enthusiasm for the great John Jerry.
So I conclude that Ireland seems to have difficulty with his O-line draft and FA acquisitions. He has had many opportunities and appears to have consistently failed on O-linemen, whereas he's had a lot more success with DB's - Carroll, Wilson, Clemons, Jones were all late round picks and Grimes is the best FA to sign since Ireland walked into the building.
Maybe Ireland and the Scouts are better skilled at distilling DB talent than O-line.
 
All we had to do, was lose a few more games in 2011-2012 and Luck would be in a Dolphin jersey.

The Polian family has no issue getting their organization to tank games.

Meanwhile, we couldn't even get our pathetic fanbase to agree.
 
Another contrast: the Colts have a real QB coach, not someone who is learning on the job.
 
Statler Waldorf said:
Luck threw three picks in a playoff game. I like Tanny.
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Luck won the game, picked up the slack for Trent Fumbleson, and is loved despite an awful neckbeard deformity.

Tannehill throws 3 picks and can't even get into the playoffs.
 
I hope the OP is being funny.

The Dolphins have much more talent on their roster.......... except of course at QB. Thats the difference in the teams.

The reason the Dolphins beat Indy is because the Dolphins are the better club. The difference is the dolphins lose to teams with less talent like the Bucs, because their QB is not good and inconsistent.

Hilton isnt as good as Wallace. Similar player. Both get open deep. Hilton catches deep TDs...... because his QB puts it on the money.
Heyward Bey sucks. Drop machine. Hartline is much better than Brazil or whoever the colts have.
Matthews is better than whoever else they have too.

Clay is a beast. He is better than any of the Colts TEs.

The Colts OL blows as well.

Donald Brown is probably slightly better than our RBs, but Richardson sucks.

The key difference in the teams, aside from QB play, is the Dolphins have a very good defense. The Colts defense is hot garbage. Thats why they gave up 44 points today.
 
electrolyte said:
All we had to do, was lose a few more games in 2011-2012 and Luck would be in a Dolphin jersey.

The Polian family has no issue getting their organization to tank games.

Meanwhile, we couldn't even get our pathetic fanbase to agree.
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I never took a side on the matter but whats dumb is we had nothing to lose except a few games while they risked losing one of the best QBs of all time.
 
WVDolphan said:
I hope the OP is being funny.

The Dolphins have much more talent on their roster.......... except of course at QB. Thats the difference in the teams.

The reason the Dolphins beat Indy is because the Dolphins are the better club. The difference is the dolphins lose to teams with less talent like the Bucs, because their QB is not good and inconsistent.

Hilton isnt as good as Wallace. Similar player. Both get open deep. Hilton catches deep TDs...... because his QB puts it on the money.
Heyward Bey sucks. Drop machine. Hartline is much better than Brazil or whoever the colts have.
Matthews is better than whoever else they have too.

Clay is a beast. He is better than any of the Colts TEs.

The Colts OL blows as well.

Donald Brown is probably slightly better than our RBs, but Richardson sucks.

The key difference in the teams, aside from QB play, is the Dolphins have a very good defense. The Colts defense is hot garbage. Thats why they gave up 44 points today.
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Dead on
 
You put Tannehill on that Colts team, they're a 6 win team at the most. Put Luck on this Phins team, 12 wins. We would've won the Baltimore, Buffalo and Tampa games.
 
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