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Miami should continue with throwing deep...

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...over the next two games like they started doing in the New England game. At least that would give us hope knowing that we can go deep. And if theres something that needs fixed to make it work better, then we can fix it.
 
This is exactly what im after tomorrow, too. Philbin and staff need to plan as if they are staying with us for a long time, so continue to grow the deep passing game. If it starts to click, and we get to 9-7, maybe Philbin has reasons to show another season is worth keeping him around for?
 
...over the next two games like they started doing in the New England game. At least that would give us hope knowing that we can go deep. And if theres something that needs fixed to make it work better, then we can fix it.

A lot of it depends on how well the Vikings are rushing the passer. If they're able to get home with 3-4 rushers consistently, they're just going to drop 7-8 into a deep zone and shut down our passing game like the Pats did i nthe 2nd half.
 
Philbin is trying to keep his job he will do whatever it takes to stick around, and that does not involve experiments.
 
Disagree... Can't throw Tannehill to the wolves with our O-line situation...hes been hit enough.

This is so freakin annoying....Throw the freakin ball and stop waiting for this and that and that to be perfect. Guess what? its ideal but not an absolute requirement. The game and the type of player(Wallace specifically) we have is setup to take deep shots even under not ""ideal situation""

We play so freak'in scared and safe its maddening!

Part of what we don't seem to understand is that hitting those throws is the goal. However just making the attempt is just as important for the game. Take a few shots consistently and see how willing those safeties will be to sit in the box.

It's okay...Lazor its Okay Philbin...Let teams know that your willing to take the shot down field.Especially when they drop those defenders in the box....
 
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I agree. We should go deep. Last week we hit some but now Let's see if we can do it again.
 
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If the deep pass is there, take the shot, but to force the deep pass with our O-line problems will bring problem. Tannehill has proven to be tough, but eventually the hits will start taking their toll.
 
I am tired of dink and dunk....go deep.

Also let Tanny run more on the read option....he fakes defenders out of their shoes with that fake handoff and run.
 
This is so freakin annoying....Throw the freakin ball and stop waiting for this and that and that to be perfect. Guess what? its ideal but not an absolute requirement. The game and the type of player(Wallace specifically) we have is setup to take deep shots even under not ""ideal situation""

We play so freak'in scared and safe its maddening!

Part of what we don't seem to understand is that hitting those throws is the goal. However just making the attempt is just as important for the game. Take a few shots consistently and see how willing those safeties will be to sit in the box.

It's okay...Lazor its Okay Philbin...Let teams know that your willing to take the shot down field.Especially when they drop those defenders in the box....

I'd agree with you if we we're in the hunt....but we are now looking at next year and I would prefer our quarterback not getting killed in meaningless games.

He has taken too many hits the last two years.....that can destroy a QB's psyche.

We have a couple major holes on this team that can't be covered up until next year......turnstile at right tackle.....poor interior line play.....the Texans destroyed David Carr using your theory.
 
I'd agree with you if we we're in the hunt....but we are now looking at next year and I would prefer our quarterback not getting killed in meaningless games.

He has taken too many hits the last two years.....that can destroy a QB's psyche.

We have a couple major holes on this team that can't be covered up until next year......turnstile at right tackle.....poor interior line play.....the Texans destroyed David Carr using your theory.

A lot of David Carr's problem was David Carr.
 
is throwing deep an option? we have 1 receiver with that kind of speed and an OL put together with chewing gum and baling wire

this "we should" crap is tiring

we should play great defense, we should have a great PK, we should run the ball all day, we should cure cancer, we should sack the QB every time

give it a rest, Ireland sucked hard for years and all understandings must come by this way
 
I'd agree with you if we we're in the hunt....but we are now looking at next year and I would prefer our quarterback not getting killed in meaningless games.

He has taken too many hits the last two years.....that can destroy a QB's psyche.

We have a couple major holes on this team that can't be covered up until next year......turnstile at right tackle.....poor interior line play.....the Texans destroyed David Carr using your theory.

Bull. The argument that David Carr was destroyed because he was hit frequently early in his career is such a fallacy. His career failed because he had horrible pocket presence and he just WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH. Troy Aikman got the hell kicked out of him early in his career and he went on to be a hall of famer.
 
I want to see some of you "experts" get hit as hard and as many times as David Carr did....and then tell me it wouldn't effect how you played or your pocket presence?

Its laughable that any of you actually think that.....it shows a total lack of understanding of the game or reality...very "Madden like" thinking indeed.

Could David Carr have been a franchise QB?
National Football Post By Jeff Fedotin
April 22, 2012 1:06 PM
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Looking to draft Andrew Luck, RG III or Ryan Tannehill and throw him into your rebuilding lineup right away?

Perhaps the story of QB David Carr should serve as a cautionary tale.


View photo
.David Carr
ICONCarr was the No.1 overall pick of the 2002 NFL Draft.
10 years ago Carr seemed like a no-brainer as the first selection of the 2002 NFL Draft.

He started 26 games at Fresno State. During his senior year, Carr completed 64.7 percent of his passes and led the NCAA with 4,299 passing yards and 42 touchdowns.

He not only guided his WAC team to upsets against Colorado, Oregon State and Wisconsin but also had the character to serve as the face of the expansion Texans. The devoted family man wears his wedding ring during games.

Carr, though, would last just five years in Houston and get sacked 249 times, including an NFL-record 76 times during his rookie season.

“The early part of his career affected him,” said Charley Casserly, the CBS NFL analyst and former Texans general manager who drafted Carr.

Carr’s first two games of his NFL career could serve as a microcosm for the rest.


Starting from the opening snap, he showcased his talent and moxie, leading the Texans to a triumphant, 19-10, upset against the in-state rival and blueblood, Dallas Cowboys, in Week One. With the game tied in the fourth quarter, Carr threw a 65-yard TD pass to Corey Bradford to give Houston the lead.

The following week the Chargers defeated the Texans, 24-3, sacking Carr nine times and hitting him a dozen more. Watching him take a beating, some teammates wondered how he could even focus to call the next play.

Carr would get up each time, taking every snap that day, but the cumulative sacks eventually would take their toll on the potential star.

I'm sure you experts know more about this than Charlie Casserly...hell, a 12 year old with common sense knows getting the snot knocked out of you that many times is going to change you.
 
I want to see some of you "experts" get hit as hard and as many times as David Carr did....and then tell me it wouldn't effect how you played or your pocket presence?

Its laughable that any of you actually think that.....it shows a total lack of understanding of the game or reality...very "Madden like" thinking indeed.

Could David Carr have been a franchise QB?
National Football Post By Jeff Fedotin
April 22, 2012 1:06 PM

Looking to draft Andrew Luck, RG III or Ryan Tannehill and throw him into your rebuilding lineup right away?

Perhaps the story of QB David Carr should serve as a cautionary tale.


View photo
.David Carr
ICONCarr was the No.1 overall pick of the 2002 NFL Draft.
10 years ago Carr seemed like a no-brainer as the first selection of the 2002 NFL Draft.

He started 26 games at Fresno State. During his senior year, Carr completed 64.7 percent of his passes and led the NCAA with 4,299 passing yards and 42 touchdowns.

He not only guided his WAC team to upsets against Colorado, Oregon State and Wisconsin but also had the character to serve as the face of the expansion Texans. The devoted family man wears his wedding ring during games.

Carr, though, would last just five years in Houston and get sacked 249 times, including an NFL-record 76 times during his rookie season.

“The early part of his career affected him,” said Charley Casserly, the CBS NFL analyst and former Texans general manager who drafted Carr.

Carr’s first two games of his NFL career could serve as a microcosm for the rest.


Starting from the opening snap, he showcased his talent and moxie, leading the Texans to a triumphant, 19-10, upset against the in-state rival and blueblood, Dallas Cowboys, in Week One. With the game tied in the fourth quarter, Carr threw a 65-yard TD pass to Corey Bradford to give Houston the lead.

The following week the Chargers defeated the Texans, 24-3, sacking Carr nine times and hitting him a dozen more. Watching him take a beating, some teammates wondered how he could even focus to call the next play.

Carr would get up each time, taking every snap that day, but the cumulative sacks eventually would take their toll on the potential star.

I'm sure you experts know more about this than Charlie Casserly...hell, a 12 year old with common sense knows getting the snot knocked out of you that many times is going to change you.

Oh...and Troy Aikman is your example?......he was only sacked 90 times in his entire first three non-playoff years....Carr was sacked 76 times in his rookie year(NFL record)...get a clue.
 
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