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Those that know me and been around for a few years know the story already. So like other years I spoke with my buddy yesterday as he was in town for the Pat's meetings and the draft. Like always we talk shop on players and the draft and I pick his mind on the players that Miami draft.

Jones -(DID NOT WATCH FILM ON THIS PLAYER - FEELING AROUND NE) NOT A REACH. No he was not one of the KNOWN top tackles in the draft but the drop off from him to the "top" guys is not as steep as people will lead you believe. The kid is a 4 year started in the SEC. Plain and simple. He needs to get much stronger, and he may look like a liability early in the season but one he gets use to the speed of the game and understands he will be solid. Day 1 starter and long time fix to Miami's o-line. Very Good pick not just becasue Miami is in need of O-line men either. Nothing flashy or special about the kid just a good player and will be good in the NFL.


Landry - Best Hands in the draft. He slow yes but he makes up for it with hear/smarts/ brain. Crazy to watch him on tape. "I watched 4-5 games on him" and you watch him and he impresses you. Everything is 100%. Every snap every down. all out player that regardless of his speed he will get separation and will get open. Fights for the ball and catches everything near him. "I personaly had him as a top 5 WR" just on his ablity to get open and for being dependable. There are some scouts that say his lack of speed will hold him back in the NFL and then there are others that say his speed is not a factor. Time will tell on him but my buddies belief is that the guy will be effective and somebody is taking a seat in Miami to him as a slot player. Best player Miami drafted.

Turner (DID NOT WATCH FILM ON HIM) what he hear is the kid has everything to make him a solid pro. Needs some coaching and need to measure his level of competiton. But as far as drill wise he has everythign you want to see out of a NFL gaurd.

Aikens - (WATCHED FILM) - another good pick. Depends on what Miami does with him this is a good pick. Best in man / press coverage. NOT SCARED - will attempt to make a play on the ball. very confident in his ability. Will take chances as well becasue of he believes he can make a play all the time. Bigger corner that will get physical with WR. won't back down. needs to play much smarted. Jumps off the film at you becasue he is always around the ball. needs to sharpen a lot up with tech and foot work. Good change direction good awarness. A good corner. not NFL starter but could make some plays for you in some form of pressure package on 3rd and long. "I like the kid - good attitude will work and wants to be better." Cna see him as a solid pro for a few years. Maybe make a living as a 3rd corner in the NFL.

Hazel - he thought was interesting. Not sure what he is. Flashes some ability but nothing to make him say he would be a pro.

None of the other players he watched.

Just passing along the info as I got it.

We talked about a lot of other players too. won't put here but it was interesting what he thought about the Pa't draft.

So far my buddy has been right on with his insight go back and check the past few years post.

HEwas right on

Hartline
Clay
reshard Jones
Egnew
Vernon


Dead wrong on
Martin
a WR from USC we had a few years back (can't remember his name)
Carrol - Well he felt that Carrol would be a player for us - he does and he is a decent corner but my buddy kind of made me believe he would be much better.

Jury still out on Lamar Miller- he says he won't be a player. I think he flashes. we will see but so far he looks to be right.
 
Those that know me and been around for a few years know the story already. So like other years I spoke with my buddy yesterday as he was in town for the Pat's meetings and the draft. Like always we talk shop on players and the draft and I pick his mind on the players that Miami draft.

Jones -(DID NOT WATCH FILM ON THIS PLAYER - FEELING AROUND NE) NOT A REACH. No he was not one of the KNOWN top tackles in the draft but the drop off from him to the "top" guys is not as steep as people will lead you believe. The kid is a 4 year started in the SEC. Plain and simple. He needs to get much stronger, and he may look like a liability early in the season but one he gets use to the speed of the game and understands he will be solid. Day 1 starter and long time fix to Miami's o-line. Very Good pick not just becasue Miami is in need of O-line men either. Nothing flashy or special about the kid just a good player and will be good in the NFL.


Landry - Best Hands in the draft. He slow yes but he makes up for it with hear/smarts/ brain. Crazy to watch him on tape. "I watched 4-5 games on him" and you watch him and he impresses you. Everything is 100%. Every snap every down. all out player that regardless of his speed he will get separation and will get open. Fights for the ball and catches everything near him. "I personaly had him as a top 5 WR" just on his ablity to get open and for being dependable. There are some scouts that say his lack of speed will hold him back in the NFL and then there are others that say his speed is not a factor. Time will tell on him but my buddies belief is that the guy will be effective and somebody is taking a seat in Miami to him as a slot player. Best player Miami drafted.

Turner (DID NOT WATCH FILM ON HIM) what he hear is the kid has everything to make him a solid pro. Needs some coaching and need to measure his level of competiton. But as far as drill wise he has everythign you want to see out of a NFL gaurd.

Aikens - (WATCHED FILM) - another good pick. Depends on what Miami does with him this is a good pick. Best in man / press coverage. NOT SCARED - will attempt to make a play on the ball. very confident in his ability. Will take chances as well becasue of he believes he can make a play all the time. Bigger corner that will get physical with WR. won't back down. needs to play much smarted. Jumps off the film at you becasue he is always around the ball. needs to sharpen a lot up with tech and foot work. Good change direction good awarness. A good corner. not NFL starter but could make some plays for you in some form of pressure package on 3rd and long. "I like the kid - good attitude will work and wants to be better." Cna see him as a solid pro for a few years. Maybe make a living as a 3rd corner in the NFL.

Hazel - he thought was interesting. Not sure what he is. Flashes some ability but nothing to make him say he would be a pro.

None of the other players he watched.

Just passing along the info as I got it.

We talked about a lot of other players too. won't put here but it was interesting what he thought about the Pa't draft.

So far my buddy has been right on with his insight go back and check the past few years post.

HEwas right on

Hartline
Clay
reshard Jones
Egnew
Vernon


Dead wrong on
Martin
a WR from USC we had a few years back (can't remember his name)
Carrol - Well he felt that Carrol would be a player for us - he does and he is a decent corner but my buddy kind of made me believe he would be much better.

Jury still out on Lamar Miller- he says he won't be a player. I think he flashes. we will see but so far he looks to be right.

I am still not sure how Landry is "slow" but thank you for the right up good info to know
 
I am still not sure how Landry is "slow" but thank you for the right up good info to know

Because he timed 4.77 at the combine with a bad hammy and despite the fact he timed 4.51 at his pro day. (Hartline ran 4.52 at the combine, 4.49 at his pro day so this kid is essentially just as fast but a lot tougher).
 
I have to question the credibility of this thread. Unless he is a national scout, he should have scouted Ja'Wuan James if he scouted Landry and Hazel. Area scouts are split into regions: south east, Midwest, west coast etc.
 
When I see OP talking about the Pats scouting Landry, I get bad "what if" visions of Brady throwing to a kid with those hands, agility, and that kind of toughness. Makes me even happier that we ended up with Landry.
 
Rice or Bolton, neither had speed coming out of college. I think Landry will be a solid receiver and make pro bowl once he and Tannehill are comfortable w each other.
 
This sounds like a fortune cookie to me.


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Funny I was not high on Landry but hearing people talk about him.he is starting to grow on me
 
When I see OP talking about the Pats scouting Landry, I get bad "what if" visions of Brady throwing to a kid with those hands, agility, and that kind of toughness. Makes me even happier that we ended up with Landry.

I was thinking (especially after the corners in free agency) if the Pats went with a top WR ouch but waited to the 7th rd..just does not seem to be in Bill's DNA to go that route..

USC receiver he was referring to (Patrick Turner) maybe?
 
I was thinking (especially after the corners in free agency) if the Pats went with a top WR ouch but waited to the 7th rd..just does not seem to be in Bill's DNA to go that route..

USC receiver he was referring to (Patrick Turner) maybe?

The patriots Needed a WR for sure. I think that would have put that team over the Top. They dropped the ball in this draft. Maybe the patriots are losing their edge.
 
4.5 isnt bad

I'm not sure where the 4.51 info is coming from, but I've seen 4.58 at his pro-day (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/4/...zach-mettenberger-jarvis-landry-odell-beckham) which means he really isn't a burner. Being drafted in the second reflects that. If he was a true 4.5 guy, he'd have been taken in the 1st round given his other strengths. Seems to fit our system perfectly though, and I'm ecstatic to have him.

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Because he timed 4.77 at the combine with a bad hammy and despite the fact he timed 4.51 at his pro day. (Hartline ran 4.52 at the combine, 4.49 at his pro day so this kid is essentially just as fast but a lot tougher).

Not a 4.51 from what I've seen: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/4/...zach-mettenberger-jarvis-landry-odell-beckham
 
I have to question the credibility of this thread. Unless he is a national scout, he should have scouted Ja'Wuan James if he scouted Landry and Hazel. Area scouts are split into regions: south east, Midwest, west coast etc.
He does this every draft, I look forward to these reports. Also, he as been right a lot.
 
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